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Re: How to motivate a lazy bastard in Geneva?

Join an armoury. Go shooting.

There's a dynamic version, where you have to move as well.
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Old 05.08.2017, 23:10
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Re: How to motivate a lazy bastard in Geneva?

In reality if you are worried about fitness then a brisk walk for 30 (continuous) minutes per day is all you need, much research around to support this.

So if you take public transport to work then leave a bit earlier and just jump off a few stops earlier.

Weekends or evenings find a good bar that is 30 minutes away by (brisk) foot!
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Old 05.08.2017, 23:34
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Have you considered paragliding from the Salève?
Skydiving. All downward, easy.
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Join an armoury. Go shooting.

There's a dynamic version, where you have to move as well.
Or for real dynamism lurk down at the target end
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Re: How to motivate a lazy bastard in Geneva?

I said "lazy" and "cynical", not "suicidal"!
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Old 06.08.2017, 00:08
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I said "lazy" and "cynical", not "suicidal"!
But the chances that you don't have to repeat it three times a week ....
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Old 06.08.2017, 00:49
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Let's be honest: I don't mind culinary walks, pub trails and watching a bit of sport on tv, but that's as far as my sporting abilities go.


Hitting the big 50 soon, I wrote (probably in a drunken stupor) on my "bucket list of things to do once I'm 50" that I should get fitter and do more sport.


I know that if I'm going to a gym, I'll be very good at it for the first two months then will give up (boring, too many fit people showing off, too expensive...any excuse, really).


I go and swim regularly in the lake and I do Stand Up Paddling (the "let's not overdo it way": 30 minutes paddling, 30 minutes sunbathing on the board!). I think I need a coach or motivator, but not sure I can afford one.


Any suggestions of a good gym or fitness programme, maybe including exercising outside, or as part of a group (but not a too competitive one otherwise I'd drop out at the first Whisky stop!)? Forget team sports, I am not competitive enough and it would bring back unhappy memories of PE teachers shouting at me while I was slobbling it on the side benches in the gym!
That's so honest of you... You described my MO when it comes to sporty stuff...
Make a list of things you would like to do. You do not like the routine, the regime, so try to do different things every time:
White water rafting in Interlaken
This 'trotti' thingie down a mountain (like a bike without pedals)
Cycling, say, 20k around a lake
Learning/doing scuba dive in a lake
Crossing the longest suspension bridge in the world
Doing a tandem paragliding off Pilatus or Jungfrau
Taking up an archery course and trashing all the newbys in your group
There is this new First Glider thing in interlaken (strapped to a huge eagle model)
Spend 2 minutes flapping around in an alpine lake (i am talking single + degrees C)

Add to the list and start working through it.
I personally always look for things to do when travelling; i shall not sit and boast about them here, but please try a new thing a month.
It doesn't have to be over 160bpm over 45 mins, who cares!
I hope to see your adventure reports soon!
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Old 06.08.2017, 01:29
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Re: How to motivate a lazy bastard in Geneva?

You don't need a motivator. You simply need to find something you truly enjoy so whenever you go it feels like fun rather than a necessary must I, for example, like exercising, but absolutely despise gyms and have tried to force myself to go many times over the years. No idea how much money I wasted on year-long memberships I used for maybe 6 weeks...

When you say you go "swimming in the lake", is that proper swimming? If not then that would be my first recommendation. Can do it all year and it's a terrific workout (if done at a decent speed with decent technique, not the move-around-while-chatting-with-your-friend-kind).

Also second the recommendation for Geocaching.

Or since you like SUP, start doing yoga (flow) and then progress to SUP yoga

Or how about outdoor cycling/biking?
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Old 06.08.2017, 11:35
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You don't need a motivator. You simply need to find something you truly enjoy so whenever you go it feels like fun rather than a necessary must I, for example, like exercising, but absolutely despise gyms and have tried to force myself to go many times over the years. No idea how much money I wasted on year-long memberships I used for maybe 6 weeks...

When you say you go "swimming in the lake", is that proper swimming? If not then that would be my first recommendation. Can do it all year and it's a terrific workout (if done at a decent speed with decent technique, not the move-around-while-chatting-with-your-friend-kind).

Also second the recommendation for Geocaching.

Or since you like SUP, start doing yoga (flow) and then progress to SUP yoga

Or how about outdoor cycling/biking?


Thanks for all the sound advice. You got to the point regarding gyms: a couple of times I've tried to join, spending an annual fee above my means and ending quitting after a couple of months. It just felt like a big competition of egos, to be honest.


Anything that involves flying, jumping from a mountain...is not for me (height fear).
I do walk and hike a lot and yes, I do swim properly on the lake. I have seen the SUP combined with yoga being done, but I don't think I have the suppleness or the balance. It looked impressive, though!


Maybe joining a hiking group would be the answer or a gentle running one (I should apply to an OAP one considering my lack of motivation!)

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That's so honest of you... You described my MO when it comes to sporty stuff...
Make a list of things you would like to do. You do not like the routine, the regime, so try to do different things every time:
White water rafting in Interlaken
This 'trotti' thingie down a mountain (like a bike without pedals)
Cycling, say, 20k around a lake
Learning/doing scuba dive in a lake
Crossing the longest suspension bridge in the world
Doing a tandem paragliding off Pilatus or Jungfrau
Taking up an archery course and trashing all the newbys in your group
There is this new First Glider thing in interlaken (strapped to a huge eagle model)
Spend 2 minutes flapping around in an alpine lake (i am talking single + degrees C)


Quite a few extreme sports on the list, definitely not for me! As for the bridge, do you mean this one: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40764453
My hands started sweating when I saw the picture!


I did the "Trutg dil Flem" trail 10 days ago: https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-ch/...-dil-flem.html
which involved crossing a few high bridges above the gorgeous Flem, but I had to beg a group of hikers to lead me over one of the bridges, became paralysed with fear. Yes, I'm a bloke! Lovely people, they were! But imagine me over the Zermatt bridge, I'd be like Mr Bean at the swimming pool!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB0vHgeihJo


Add to the list and start working through it.
I personally always look for things to do when travelling; i shall not sit and boast about them here, but please try a new thing a month.
It doesn't have to be over 160bpm over 45 mins, who cares!
I hope to see your adventure reports soon!


But some sound advice in there, so thank you.

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But some sound advice in there, so thank you.


Here's my attempt at multiple quoting failing miserably.

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Time tested fitness program, gratis:

http://www.sgpa.ch/promenades/

Volunteer to walk the homeless dogs. No better motivator and coach than a four footer (over)eager for a walk. And when you are feeling lazy and the sofa looks inviting, remember: the dogs need you...

meloncollie, very interested, do you know similar around us in SZ?
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Re: How to motivate a lazy bastard in Geneva?

OK, I did a 1 1/2 hour fast walk in the woods yesterday, then tried Joe Wicks for Beginners today (Blimey, he does not tell you when to breathe in and out! My heart rate certainly went up big way!). I think I'll try the Absolute, Completely Useless Beginner version tomorrow! Off to the lake for a good swim.


All sounds great, but I know that in about 2-3 weeks' time I will have lost the motivation, my recurring problem.
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OK, I did a 1 1/2 hour fast walk in the woods yesterday, then tried Joe Wicks for Beginners today (Blimey, he does not tell you when to breathe in and out! My heart rate certainly went up big way!). I think I'll try the Absolute, Completely Useless Beginner version tomorrow! Off to the lake for a good swim.


All sounds great, but I know that in about 2-3 weeks' time I will have lost the motivation, my recurring problem.

Find a workout buddy who is in a similar condition / mindset as you. Motivate (berate) each other when the laziness kicks in! When you cannot workout together, send pics proving you did your daily fitness. Or some such motivator... whoever does the least each week has to buy the drinks for the other at your weekly celebratory evening out.
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Re: How to motivate a lazy bastard in Geneva?

Fancy like going for an aperitif one day ?
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An affair half your age?
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Re: How to motivate a lazy bastard in Geneva?

Thought about crossfit instead of old fashioned gym?

None of the boring same old routine, it's different everytime, nobody is posing, there are no mirrors, no fancy machines, plenty of motivation. Usually max 8 in the session so it's almost like having a personal trainer.
Trial is always free so nothing to lose except some sweat.
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Hitting the big 50 soon, I wrote (probably in a drunken stupor) on my "bucket list of things to do once I'm 50" that I should get fitter and do more sport.

In my opinion, that's too vague a goal. If you can't measure it then how are you going to know you've made any changes?

A great motivator is a race (half-marathon, bike event etc) or a certain, time/distance on a rowing machine, or a certain number of reps with push-ups.
You'll get fitter through the training.
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meloncollie, very interested, do you know similar around us in SZ?
The only Tierhiem in SZ is Tierheim Burg in Seewen - but I see that they don’t have any homeless dogs at the moment. (IIRC they underwent reorganization a few years ago, I *think* they are mostly professionally run these days but always worth inquiring.)
http://tierheim-burg.ch

However, there are several ZH Tierheim with well established walking programs. For instance:

Tierheim Surber:
http://www.tierheim-surber.ch/hunde-laufgruppe.html

(Heffalump came from this Tierheim, they are good people.)

Tierwaisenhaus:
http://tierambulanz.org/hundespaziergaenger/


A bit closer is Tierschutzverein Zug in Allenwinden
http://www.tsvzug.ch
The website doesn’t have an appeal for volunteers so might not need help, but it’s always worth asking.


Another group I very much respect is Animal Happy End:
http://animal-happyend.ch/

They do not have a shelter, rather the dogs are in foster homes throughout Switzerland. You could, however, contact the group to ask if you could help in some way. (Off the top of my head, ask if you could support a fosterer in your area, offer occasional backup help if needed.) I also see that they are looking for emergency foster homes. Becoming a fosterer requires significantly more commitment than dog walking, but it’s a very rewarding role.


Alternatively, contact the Gemeinde, ask if they know if there is a group (or maybe individual) in need of help. For instance, a elderly person might need help with dog walking, perhaps might need someone to drive to a vet appointment, etc.

As far as I know there is no official group doing this, but from random conversations around the village I from time to time hear comments that lead me to believe that there is a need. It’s hard to get ‘connected’ to people in need of help, but perhaps start with an organization with a tangential mission. Sometimes the only way to identify a need is to offer to fill it…

Here’s Pro Senectute Ausserschwyz: http://www.sz.pro-senectute.ch/ausserschwyz.html, they might be a starting point to inquire if this kind of help might be needed, to find out how to go about it.

A little bit of help here and there often makes all the difference to an elderly person’s ability to keep their faithful companion with them - meaning one less dog landing in a Tierheim and one more happy senior.


And of course, you could also offer your help on the EF pets corner.

Good luck - and good on ya for wanting to help.
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Find a workout buddy who is in a similar condition / mindset as you. Motivate (berate) each other when the laziness kicks in! When you cannot workout together, send pics proving you did your daily fitness. Or some such motivator... whoever does the least each week has to buy the drinks for the other at your weekly celebratory evening out.
I like your ideas, especially the weekly celebratory drink! You don't want to be a motivator in Geneva, do you?

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Fancy like going for an aperitif one day ?
I am always partial to an aperitif...but how is this going to help me shed the calories and get fitter?

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I am always partial to an aperitif...but how is this going to help me shed the calories and get fitter?

We can continue to talk about it and make a plan......
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