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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

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They always want to put you in the recovery position - I had a friend who broke his back paragliding and some passing mountain guides wanted to do just that.
He managed to persuade them not to.
I've had a samaritan class recently connected to my work, and the medic told me 'better paralysed than dead'. They teach to put people in the recovery position whatever the situation.

Glad FMF showed some commone sense though!
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Migros had them this week! I know because I was surprised to see them - did not try them though.

Don't call him an old man again, when you visit him.
He's actually younger than me, he just looks older.
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Old 23.02.2018, 20:52
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

I think it is what is called: "Doing the Schumacher halfpipe" See you back on Fantasy island.
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Old 23.02.2018, 20:56
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

Wow, I am so sorry to hear. OH had a good look and says you've been very lucky in your terrible bad luck - so wish you a good recovery.
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Old 23.02.2018, 20:56
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

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You might want to up the quantity of alcohol you're bringing as a peace offering when you visit him.
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Old 23.02.2018, 21:06
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I've had a samaritan class recently connected to my work, and the medic told me 'better paralysed than dead'. They teach to put people in the recovery position whatever the situation.

Glad FMF showed some commone sense though!
I would rather be dead, than paralysed, I live for sport & skiing, my wife knew I would not want to survive if I was going to be disabled.
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Old 23.02.2018, 21:25
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I've had a samaritan class recently connected to my work, and the medic told me 'better paralysed than dead'. They teach to put people in the recovery position whatever the situation.
Did you understand the medic correctly?

You put unconscious people in the recovery position where yes, it's better paralysed than dead but not conscious, breathing and talking people! You leave them in the position they are lying in and let the professionals move them.
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Old 23.02.2018, 22:37
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

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He's actually younger than me, he just looks older.
At our age, EVERYONE looks older despite being younger!

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Old 23.02.2018, 22:40
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At our age, EVERYONE looks older despite being younger!

Tom

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One of my grand children just got their Masters; then you feel both old and dumb
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Old 24.02.2018, 06:47
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

Unlucky!

Wishing you a speedy recovery!
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Old 24.02.2018, 10:12
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

Good lord, just seen this FMF. Seems you were very lucky to have such good doctors looking after you. Best wishes for a complete recovery and that you're on the slopes again next winter. Mad crazy fool wanting to do it again.
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Old 24.02.2018, 17:34
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I can categorically say I will totally recover & will be skiing again next season, this is the longest post I have ever written & apologies for any spelling mistakes.
You could have started with that you bastard!
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

Good luck and get well soon mate.
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

Wish you full recovery!
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Old 25.02.2018, 13:47
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

Holy crap! I’m writing from my own hospital bed - had knee replaced on Friday.

Glad you are on the mend! Take care!
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At our age, EVERYONE looks older despite feeling younger!

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FTFY

FMF get well soon
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Old 25.02.2018, 19:47
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

Goodness, what a fright!

Wishing you all the best in your recovery, FMF.
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Old 25.02.2018, 19:56
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Did you understand the medic correctly?

You put unconscious people in the recovery position where yes, it's better paralysed than dead but not conscious, breathing and talking people!
Quite so, although there are levels of 'conscious' such that even someone talking may need to be regarded as unconscious and put into the recovery position if you're not able to monitor their breathing (if you need to attend to someone else or go for help, for example).

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You leave them in the position they are lying in and let the professionals move them.
But don't automatically trust the 'professionals' either. When I was lying on the road following a spine-first impact into the crash barrier the French ambulance crew actually helped me remove my leather jacket, whose spine protector had probably saved my life, but was uncomfortable to lie on. Yes, they helped me twist my body found to raise one arm then the other. At that time I wasn't thinking straight, and had been walking around, but their actions (or assistance) could have led to severe consequences, given the nine crushed and splintered vertebrae...

Thankfully a doctor and then the REGA copper arrived soon after, limiting any further possibility of them helping me towards paralysis.
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Old 26.02.2018, 14:17
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

The hospital would not let me go home in the car my wife had rented so insisted on an Ambulance. I was immediately taken to the cash machine & they have failed to five me a proper receipt. I suppose for 2 hours & 45 minutes for 404 euros, is actually cheaper than a taxi.
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Re: FMF broken back in minor ski fall

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Quite so, although there are levels of 'conscious' such that even someone talking may need to be regarded as unconscious and put into the recovery position if you're not able to monitor their breathing (if you need to attend to someone else or go for help, for example).
Well that's true - especially when, as you say you need to get help yourself.
There are other times you may need to move a casualty when you really shouldn't too such as too shelter if you are going to be benighted.


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True too.

Once when climbing in the Pyrennes, a helicopter arrived to take a friend to hospital who had fallen a few hundred metres and they set up a belay to lower the casualty (now in a stretcher) 50m or so down to the helicopter.

But when one of them got round to actually lowering the casualty, he ignored the belay his colleague had set up and used mine as he thought it was the better of the two. They took my rope with them too!
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