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Re: Runner's schtick

Starting to feel some of my running mojo coming back. 3rd 40min "tempo" run today, i.e. something close to "as fast as possible". It felt great to not be doddering along. Did my Parkrun 5k in 22:11, so 40s better than last time (a year ago). Nice.

It is at this stage that I have to be careful not to get carried away and get injured.
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Old 17.08.2019, 07:43
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Ok, soooo....

Did not manage to cut down on running nor cutting down the distance. I just don't have the discipline. I will work on it.

But. 5% increase in the angle of the treadmill was really amazing, Tom! It gets ever so slightly harder but the foot landing is so different. Lighter.

I also figured out when we skied the last time a couple days ago, that it is in fact my ski boot that pinched me on my shin. Since they are set 90flex, rigid - I have to be careful when walking in them. So loosening up the clasp did the trick.

I think I will get Rebooks again, they are so pleasant. Or which foamy soles do people like on their running shoes?

Take up swimming. Jogging destroys the knees and hips. And swimming is a total excercise

Thanks, everyone, for their thoughts and time.

Edot - I've never used TENS, a doc family member used me as a guinea-pig for some extensive electropuncture, though, I was surprised how well it worked, as a physio-therapy, too. Not just an immuno boost.

Jacek - I use tennis balls for my feet, I will rub it on my calf, good idea.

Ibuprofen...I honestly really dislike the effect painkillers have on my cognition so try to avoid at all cost. But it is true that as an antinflammatory I should reconsider. Just want to avoid the annoying brain fog.

I never thought about consulting a physio, I should if it persists. As of now, the friendlier setting on my ski boot seems to help a great deal.
Take up swimming. Jogging destroys the knees and hips. And swimming is a total exercise
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Starting to feel some of my running mojo coming back. 3rd 40min "tempo" run today, i.e. something close to "as fast as possible". It felt great to not be doddering along. Did my Parkrun 5k in 22:11, so 40s better than last time (a year ago). Nice.

It is at this stage that I have to be careful not to get carried away and get injured.
Yup, that's the thing. I do Wingate technique and it keeps the ambition at bay . Plus I need to save some energy for rowing after every run and weights. I will split the weights, though, to a diff time schedule, can't rip through too many shirts (despite my and mom's divine sewing skills, lol).

Congrats on the achievement! I think that's fab! We could run together sometime in a couple of wks, if we synchronize our schedules, I used to run around the Div. lake quite a bit and miss it. I am not into timing it, but frequency of the runs, but could keep up, me thinks.

Omtatsat - yes, swimming is cool. Water is a lovely fitness friend.
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You are either using far too heavy weights or doing far too many reps. It takes a hell of a dedicated training schedule to bulk up to the point of ripping shirts
Don't know, the lady in the picture doesn't look too muscular (to me).....

I used to run years ago but have switched to other sports.
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Old 17.08.2019, 09:53
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That's what distance running does. Sprints have a very different effect. That was my reminder to myself to not go overboard with sprints and lift reps.
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I don't want either. Pls, God, allow me to work out well and not bulk, I don't like having to shop for clothes. Or, alternatively, I could just exist in some kind of stretchy lycra universe. Ha.
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Old 17.08.2019, 10:10
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Take up swimming. Jogging destroys the knees and hips. And swimming is a total exercise
They used to say it destroyed your joints (in the 70s and 80s when ‘jogging’ became popular) but there is now decent science and longterm studies that show the opposite. It can help build cartilage which protects joints. Also, especially for women, the impact as well as muscle maintenance/development is good for bone health and staves off osteoporosis. Swimming is good, but doesn’t have the same effect on bone health.

As with everything, moderation is key; i.e. don’t go from couch to 7 days running 10k as fast as you can, and equipment; invest in good shoes for your height, weight, style, foot type. Welcome to the 21st century.
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Old 17.08.2019, 10:16
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I don't want either. Pls, God, allow me to work out well and not bulk, I don't like having to shop for clothes. Or, alternatively, I could just exist in some kind of stretchy lycra universe. Ha.
Unless you are doing everything to the extreme, you won’t bulk. I’ve been running for almost 15 years, as well as cross training with a few weights, biking, etc and, apart from my calf muscles being slightly larger, the rest of my muscles are just ‘the right shape’ as opposed to being mushy and under used.

As I said earlier, developing significant muscle volume takes hard gym hours several times a week. Unless you were a muscle-free wee weedy thing before?
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They used to say it destroyed your joints (in the 70s and 80s when ‘jogging’ became popular) but there is now decent science and longterm studies that show the opposite. It can help build cartilage which protects joints. Also, especially for women, the impact as well as muscle maintenance/development is good for bone health and staves off osteoporosis. Swimming is good, but doesn’t have the same effect on bone health.

As with everything, moderation is key; i.e. don’t go from couch to 7 days running 10k as fast as you can, and equipment; invest in good shoes for your height, weight, style, foot type. Welcome to the 21st century.
I agree, esp. re cartilage, joint health. Shin splints are a different story but I need to figure out a good rhythm and enough rest. I also rebuilt my foot arches, walk differently too, not just run. Stability, balance, even dancing is so much more fun for a runner. I don't think Tai-chi or Nordic walking would contribute as much to my movement management and control. People are panthers. Not sloths. Except some Sunday mornings.

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It will all pay dividends as you age, too! But don’t undo all the good work by over-doing it now, if you know what I mean. Play the long game.
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Unless you are doing everything to the extreme, you won’t bulk. I’ve been running for almost 15 years, as well as cross training with a few weights, biking, etc and, apart from my calf muscles being slightly larger, the rest of my muscles are just ‘the right shape’ as opposed to being mushy and under used.

As I said earlier, developing significant muscle volume takes hard gym hours several times a week. Unless you were a muscle-free wee weedy thing before?
I think I am just meant to turn into an Arnie after certain age. No matter what. I been a fitness person since I remember but now...hello, muscles. Must be the pure Swiss proteins or something. Swiss milk. Salads only is a recipe for ostheoporosis, though, esp. for somebody who exteded nursed.

I want a looooong game. Will reschedule my lifting/sprinting.
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Old 17.08.2019, 10:57
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Plus I need to save some energy for rowing after every run and weights.
So, you row too... It's my secret weapon. It got me through my year of recovering from the knee mensicus tear with tip-top cardio (heart base rate below 50bpm). Unfortunately it's SO BORING. Even with my favorite bouncy music, I have trouble rowing more than 5k. But it's great for the back, hamstrings, hips and shoulders - lots of bits that running leaves unexercised, so I plug away at it - maybe 20k per week now.
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So, you row too... It's my secret weapon. It got me through my year of recovering from the knee mensicus tear with tip-top cardio (heart base rate below 50bpm). Unfortunately it's SO BORING. Even with my favorite bouncy music, I have trouble rowing more than 5k. But it's great for the back, hamstrings, hips and shoulders - lots of bits that running leaves unexercised, so I plug away at it - maybe 20k per week now.
On a rowing machine, I ALWAYS start yawning for some reason. No idea why - maybe it is that boring.
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So, you row too... It's my secret weapon. It got me through my year of recovering from the knee mensicus tear with tip-top cardio (heart base rate below 50bpm). Unfortunately it's SO BORING. Even with my favorite bouncy music, I have trouble rowing more than 5k. But it's great for the back, hamstrings, hips and shoulders - lots of bits that running leaves unexercised, so I plug away at it - maybe 20k per week now.
I run and row right after, which is a perfect sequence for me. I don't do music through rowing, since it keeps one's mind off the flex and I need to think of the pelvis position and a straight back, not cram the shoulders, not tensing up the neck too much. It is great if you keep as mindful and meditative as possible while relaxed. I got used to it and it is really efficient. It is not so popular, tbh. Nobody ever on the rowing machines.
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On a rowing machine, I ALWAYS start yawning for some reason. No idea why - maybe it is that boring.
You need more oxygen.
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Alrighty, my fellow running fiends...

Hope everyone is keeping their pace, I gotta get back to the swing of things and run 5-6 per week again, I am dreaming of cooler temps and the fall coming!

Now - practical issues. Where is your music thing when you run, are your headphones wifi?

I noticed that since I am using my feet a lot (walk 3km a day on top of running), my toenail varnish doesn't like it. And I need to oil my feet quite a bit (shea butter, etc.) What's your routine to keep them feet pretty?
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Love her shoes...what are they???
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I noticed that since I am using my feet a lot (walk 3km a day on top of running), my toenail varnish doesn't like it. And I need to oil my feet quite a bit (shea butter, etc.) What's your routine to keep them feet pretty?
Rub off the rough bits in the shower, keep toenails clipped, walk barefoot round the house, stretch your toes (no idea why I do this but it feels good, and my feet feel looser and more relaxed afterwards) moisturise, keep blister plasters in stock.
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Now - practical issues. Where is your music thing when you run, are your headphones wifi?
I think you mean Bluetooth.

I don't run with music much but if I do, I use a small mp3 player and wired in-ear headphones with the wire under my shirt so it doesn't get in the way.

My wife uses a wired ipod shuffle for running. (though she does have wireless Apple airpods which she uses when ironing ).

To be honest, I prefer to hear what is going on around me - especially when crossing roads or out in the countryside.
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I think you mean Bluetooth.

I don't run with music much but if I do, I use a small mp3 player and wired in-ear headphones with the wire under my shirt so it doesn't get in the way.

My wife uses a wired ipod shuffle for running. (though she does have wireless Apple airpods which she uses when ironing ).

To be honest, I prefer to hear what is going on around me - especially when crossing roads or out in the countryside.
Same here. Not only because it is safer, but also because I like to hear the sounds around me, to be present then and there.
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