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Runner's schtick

Ok, I am opening this for any questions relating to runners, either devoted or Sunday ones, whoever needs to ask.

Q1 - I can't shake an unpleasant pulled muscle right next to my shin, need a quick working trick to stop the dull pain and don't feel like stopping my few kms daily routine. Any tips? I do stretch bf and after.

Q2 - I will get new shoes, wonder if that'll help. Any tips for latest, reliable (and not ugly) shoes for light daily routine? I run on a treadmill (so I can cram sheetmusic for symphonies).

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Old 23.02.2019, 12:43
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Re: Runner's shtick

Q1 sounds like shin splints. Too much, too fast, too far, too soon. Needs rest. Proper rest.

As for shoes, everyone’s different. Go to a running shop and ask for your gait to be analysed, try all the shoes they recommend, run out of the shop and round the block if you have to. A good shop is used to runners testing the shoes.
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I run on a treadmill (so I can cram sheetmusic for symphonies).

Try setting the treadmill to a slight gradient rather than flat. That mimics real running more and 'may' help with the muscle.

Massage of the muscle (with a Black Roll or otherwise) is probably going to be more effective than stretching.
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Re: Runner's shtick

I think it is shin splint aka tibial stress syndrom. Gawd. Today it really moved to the top of my shin. I really do not want to stop my 3-4kms a day.

I will have a look at better shoes, old ones don't support any more.

Tom - it is a good tip, I will move it up a little. By how much?
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Re: Runner's shtick

Buy a bouyancy belt and go jogging in the pool for a couple of weeks. It’s not quite the same as running but you can get a sort of workout from it. I rehabilitated a dodgy ankle like that. You just have to get yourself a flowery bathing cap so you fit in with the other floating ladies

Or go biking.

Anything to get the weight and impact off and give it a fighting chance. When you go back to running, go easy and build up slowly.
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Tom - it is a good tip, I will move it up a little. By how much?
Not much.

I checked - it's a bit of an urban myth that an incline means it's more like real running with regards to energy exerted etc but I have found over the years, that a slight incline does seem to put less stress on the lower legs.

I don't actually like treadmills and prefer to run outside but there are times when not much else is available.
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Re: Runner's shtick

It is not just the treadmills that are horrid, but the whole gym experience just doesn't compare to running outside. But it is the fastest way I can, as a single mom, squeeze in the few daily kms while supervizing all the other stuff that needs to get done. Even running races is better than gym training, though, stuffy place where people gawk. Anyways. I am grateful for what I have.

I will put up the angle today, and see. Though I do intervals and sprint half my distance, so it will be a bit funny.

This morning I don't feel my tibia much so something is ok. I loosened my shoe yesterday. I ran in a different gym, too, the landing pad seems softer. And the belt is wider, less stress.

SG - floating belt sounds like fun. The cap doesn't, but I might borrow an animal one from my kid. The pool is far away, though, and they might not let me padle the water in the gym jacuzzi.
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Re: Runner's shtick

If the pain persists and the situation deteriorates, visit a physio. You may need a referral from a GP, but it should be covered under your health or accident insurance (depending on how and when the sprain was caused one or the other cover may kick in).

I strained my knee last year, and nine sessions of physio really assisted the recovery. So much so I managed two full marathons and the Zermatt Ultraks trail race.

If it is only a minor injury, rest alone should be sufficient, or moderate your pace for a week to allow recovery if you have to exercise. Taking ibruprofen after you work out may reduce swelling, but the medical evidence to support this is very mixed, and you are probably better off resting or reducing the intensity of your work out regime.
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Re: Runner's shtick

No advice for running schtick, but a lot of experience with swelling and pain (two knee replacements last year).

If you have swelling and/or pain, ice and elevation are often better than meds, if you can take the time. Of course, it's easy to knit, read, grade papers, etc. while icing.
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Taking ibruprofen after you work out may reduce swelling, but the medical evidence to support this is very mixed
I think you've got confused here.

Ibuprofen is an anti-inflammatory. That's accepted.

The evidence that reducing inflammation is the best way to heal is mixed - especially as the inflammation is a healing and protective process itself.

The general consensus is that in the short-term (a couple of days after the trauma or other injury), ibuprofen should not be used but after that is probably okay.
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Re: Runner's shtick

Jacek’s method. Keep massaging the soar area with a tennis ball until the pain is alleviated.
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Re: Runner's shtick

Have you ever used a TENS machine it's an electical stimuator/massage device. Theyre reasonably inexpensive (though I forget what I paid), small, and really help to relieve muscle pain.
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Re: Runner's shtick

If your pain is next to your calf, it sounds as though you have shin splints (which Sandgrounder referenced). I had them years ago, and the remedy for me was: resting, ibuprofen and buying new shoes with more cushioning. But I had to lay off jogging for a while as it was too painful.

It could also be your ITB - Iliotibial band (with which I have also had issues). It runs along the side of the quad, hamstring and calf. I had a lot of issues with it when I used to play tennis competitively. When it flared for me, I used a foam roller. Note: it is/was AGONOZING! But my ITB is/was so tight; I just had to persevere and deal with the pain of rolling. And it did seem to help. Not pleasant but effective!
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Re: Runner's shtick

Ok, soooo....

Did not manage to cut down on running nor cutting down the distance. I just don't have the discipline. I will work on it.

But. 5% increase in the angle of the treadmill was really amazing, Tom! It gets ever so slightly harder but the foot landing is so different. Lighter.

I also figured out when we skied the last time a couple days ago, that it is in fact my ski boot that pinched me on my shin. Since they are set 90flex, rigid - I have to be careful when walking in them. So loosening up the clasp did the trick.

I think I will get Rebooks again, they are so pleasant. Or which foamy soles do people like on their running shoes?

Thanks, everyone, for their thoughts and time.

Edot - I've never used TENS, a doc family member used me as a guinea-pig for some extensive electropuncture, though, I was surprised how well it worked, as a physio-therapy, too. Not just an immuno boost.

Jacek - I use tennis balls for my feet, I will rub it on my calf, good idea.

Ibuprofen...I honestly really dislike the effect painkillers have on my cognition so try to avoid at all cost. But it is true that as an antinflammatory I should reconsider. Just want to avoid the annoying brain fog.

I never thought about consulting a physio, I should if it persists. As of now, the friendlier setting on my ski boot seems to help a great deal.
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Re: Runner's shtick

No-one’s mentioned compression socks yet so I will. They feel a bit weird at first but I wear them occasionally for various reasons; tight muscles, niggling start of shin splints etc. and they work. I wouldn’t wear them all the time, just when my calf muscles seem to need a bit of a hug.
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I think I will get Rebooks again, they are so pleasant. Or which foamy soles do people like on their running shoes?
I have a coworker who has had multiple injuries and now uses asics Gel Nimbus. He says they are aptly named for it feels like running on clouds. I've no idea if they do a womens version, or what the difference is between a mens and womens shoe.
Mr google says that yes, womens versions exist.
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Aaaaa....mkay. The Asics Gel Nimbus 20 Lite black do not look that bad! They are actually great looking. Plus the nimbus part, hmmm. I am an aesthetically fussy person which is a pita. Reeboks are gorgeous.
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Aaaaa....mkay. The Asics Gel Nimbus 20 Lite black do not look that bad! They are actually great looking. Plus the nimbus part, hmmm. I am an aesthetically fussy person which is a pita. Reeboks are gorgeous.
Aesthethically fussy being any coulour as long as it's black?
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Hahahahaha....uhmmm. No. Yes. No.

Reeboks I had were neon yellow, actually, very netty, so light. They were very narrow, fit my feet like...a glove.

Asics look quite wide. But they are chic in black.

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