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Stand Up Paddle

Hi, was looking to buy a SUP for my son and was looking for some advice:
- Inflatable or rigid ( he trained on a rigid one )?
- How does one figure out where one is allowed to use it?
- How to transport it to the water from home? Is one allowed to strap it to the roof ( have an X4 so the SUP will be less than the car length ) ? Or leave the hatch slightly open and tied up with the SUP sticking out about a foot?
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Old 21.05.2020, 22:15
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Re: Stand Up Paddle

I wouldn't get the rigid one but lots of people around here have them. They leave them parked at the port (in a stand, locked). I am not sure if you have to pay some fee for that.
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Old 21.05.2020, 22:29
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Re: Stand Up Paddle

I'm sorry if this doesn't answer your questions directly, but I live in Greifensee and stand-up paddling is a big thing here, on Lake Greifensee. I have seen quite a few people using the inflatable ones here (I see them inflating them on the shore). They do seem much easier to carry and transport (though you would need to also bring a hand pump with you, I guess). But I really have no idea how heavy the non-inflatable ones are.

It's not something that I've ever tried doing myself, but it does look so relaxing and serene. I took this photo here a few years ago..

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Re: Stand Up Paddle

I love my inflatable and we will buy another for my husband. Really a lot of fun. Try Gonser or Galaxus for better prices. We pump it up at the lake.
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Old 22.05.2020, 00:02
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Re: Stand Up Paddle

I'd get an inflatable one. They perform just like the rigid ones and at the end of the day, you can just toss it in the trunk.
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I love my inflatable and we will buy another for my husband. Really a lot of fun. Try Gonser or Galaxus for better prices. We pump it up at the lake.
Which brand would you suggest?
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Old 22.05.2020, 09:31
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Which brand would you suggest?
I have one of these > https://www.fool-moon.com

Feels totally solid. I go out for hours on it.
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Which brand would you suggest?
We got a cheap one off Galaxus for me. Guruu I think it was called and it was in the 300-400 franc range. Getting one for my husband in that range too but a different brand so he can have a longer one. The wider the board the more stable it will be. The longer it is the less often you have to change sides when paddling. That’s how it was explained to me in any case. I’m small but I love the 10’6” board that’s like 80cm wide I think. Going for a longer board for my husband and at least as wide. But the cheap inflatables (250-400 francs) are just fine. Our dog even goes on it and it’s held up well. Last summer an 11 year old borrowed mine for awhile and he had fun with it. A longer board has the advantage of being able to take others with you easily, just look at the weight limit. Technically my husband our dog and I can all sit on my board but can’t really paddle around on it. But I can easily take a couple of small kids with me for instance (life jackets of course!).
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Re: Stand Up Paddle

I researched this a couple of years ago. I tried friends SUPs; found it difficult and uncomfortable so ended up buying an inflatable kayak instead. The aqua marina range has good reviews for price/performance. It is probably worth hiring different ones and trying them out as short fat boards behave differently to long thin ones
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Old 22.05.2020, 17:05
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- How does one figure out where one is allowed to use it?
Everywhere where it isn't forbidden (not kidding).

Forbidden areas are demarked by dark-yellow buoys, e.g. the small one in this picture. Size and form vary, though in my experience they don't get smaller than the one pictured, a ball with 30-40cm diameter.

That should be all you need to know if you stay in the inner shore zone (up to 150m distance from the shore). For a general overview, albeit in German, of the "Do's and Don't" see the part starting with "Besondere Schweizer Regeln" on this page. While some stuff like the speed limit doesn't apply to you, knowing about it still helps to predict other's behavior/actions.

Lac Léman is international waters, so additional rules may apply. It won't hurt to ask the locals you meet, especially those who must have taken some kind of test, that's those using a sailing or motor boat.
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Or leave the hatch slightly open and tied up with the SUP sticking out about a foot?
Is it still the case with modern motors that you may breathe CO due to changed airflow? And thus want to open both front windows, at least somewhat?
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Old 23.05.2020, 08:54
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Re: Stand Up Paddle

Generally speaking the yellow buoys are marking the beach / swimming area or a bird nesting area..
So common sense.. Normally around here, people set off through these areas but don't paddle around in them. That seems to be the accepted norm, even in the life guarded beaches.. I get my board ready there, attach my leash and bag etc and paddle out past the buoys and away.

At least here it's not forbidden to even have the board in there.
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Generally speaking the yellow buoys are marking the beach / swimming area or a bird nesting area..
So common sense.. Normally around here, people set off through these areas but don't paddle around in them. That seems to be the accepted norm, even in the life guarded beaches.. I get my board ready there, attach my leash and bag etc and paddle out past the buoys and away.

At least here it's not forbidden to even have the board in there.
If the yellow buoys are part of a public bath, they're intended as safe zones for swimmers. Make sure you ask the lifeguard on duty first whether it's ok to enter the water on those premises. Some are cool with that and probably tell you, that they're ok with it, as long as you keep outside of the marked perimeter.
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Old 23.05.2020, 10:03
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What ever happened to wind surfing?
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Old 23.05.2020, 14:22
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What ever happened to wind surfing?

I've never seen them in the shops here - when they've got a sail on.
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Old 23.05.2020, 15:43
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What ever happened to wind surfing?
It's a thing in Geneve.. Geneva plage has a kite surfing and wind surfing.

Looks like too much hard work..
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It's a thing in Geneve.. Geneva plage has a kite surfing and wind surfing.

Looks like too much hard work..
Wind isn't reliable here in most places, and if it blows it's rarely strong and steady enough. Gusts are mostly useless for windsurfers, wind"holes" of just a few seconds can easily have you fall in the water.

The Silvaplanersee is the big exception to that rule. I seem to remember that the lakes in the Jura are as well, but only within limits.
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My brother-in-law Windsurfs on lake Neuchâtel. Not our cup of tea in the least but there’s a whole club there.
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Re: Stand Up Paddle

Got one a few years ago from coop, 250 chuffs, very happy.
Bought a slightly larger one (10'6) from Gonser just recently, 200 chuffs, also very happy. Both inflatable, some people pump it up in the carpark and walk down to the water. Great activity, and we go out at every opportunity.
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Got one a few years ago from coop, 250 chuffs, very happy.
Bought a slightly larger one (10'6) from Gonser just recently, 200 chuffs, also very happy. Both inflatable, some people pump it up in the carpark and walk down to the water. Great activity, and we go out at every opportunity.
Very glad to hear that you are happy with the Gonser one. I was hesitating on their dog-specific-designed one for my husband or if that was risky since they aren’t “name brands”. Glad to hear that you were satisfied!

(Dog specific—we take our dog out a lot and the problem with a “normal” paddle board is that the non-slip matting doesn’t go all the way out front and the area for attaching any kind of pack is right at the front where a dog would want to sit. On a dog-specific one the matting goes all the way to the front and the bungees for bringing along stuff are placed behind the person rather than at the front. Looks mighty convenient seeing as right now I’m always concerned my dog will tear open my waterproof bag I carry along up front when she goes rocketing off to swim.)
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Old 24.05.2020, 17:43
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Re: Stand Up Paddle

I'm waiting for my Gonser bought one to arrive. It is a named brand (Aqua Marine, Triton) which has good reviews and much cheaper than even the reviews from the UK state. The one I got was marked down from over CHF600 to CHF350.
One thing you should be aware of though is a longer delivery time. I'm sure their website said something like next day delivery, but in the end I'm looking more at 1.5-2 weeks. The lake is not going anywhere, so no probs, but if you have a specific event or date in mind, just keep that in mind.
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