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Talk to you later 29.10.2020 09:55

Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
I use one of those basic, solid looking Schwinn bikes regularly at gym (older model) but now I want to buy one for home use too. Not really interested in the apps and online community training aspect, my heart rate monitor and fitness watch is enough for me.

So currently Schwinn seems to have 3 models-

IC8 seems to be available in CH for CHF1200 (magnetic resistance)

IC7 seems to be available in CH for CHF800-1000.

IC2 seems to be available in CH for CHF700

I think IC2/7 will be enough for my needs.


VS



Then there are some bikes available for under CHF500, are they really that inferior for basic cardio? Visually they look solid enough but could the flywheel, braking system, chain etc really fall apart too soon? It will get used daily for at least 2 hours and won't be a house decoration item ;)


For CHF219
For CHF500
For CHF513


Any opinion or personal experience? Thanks :)

John_H 29.10.2020 09:59

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
Thinking that sort of money I would go for an assault / echo bike for the best workout.. Good luck using for 2 hours right enough :)

These are pretty solid, we use them in the gym

Edit : or the rogue version
https://www.rogueeurope.eu/rogue-echo-bike-eu?locale=en

Talk to you later 29.10.2020 10:22

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
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Originally Posted by John_H (Post 3232744)
Thinking that sort of money I would go for an assault / echo bike for the best workout.. Good luck using for 2 hours right enough :)

These are pretty solid, we use them in the gym

Edit : or the rogue version
https://www.rogueeurope.eu/rogue-echo-bike-eu?locale=en


I did post under CHF500 ones too :p

Interesting link, will check some YT videos. Those fans look the size of my whole flat though, dust magnet?
Visually I find it very repulsive though. It won't matter when I ride her but rest of the time? I want looks and brain for that sort of money :D

Ato 29.10.2020 10:45

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John_H (Post 3232744)
Thinking that sort of money I would go for an assault / echo bike for the best workout.. Good luck using for 2 hours right enough :)

These are pretty solid, we use them in the gym

Edit : or the rogue version
https://www.rogueeurope.eu/rogue-echo-bike-eu?locale=en

Are they quite loud with the fan? Compared to the magnetic resistance I'm guessing they are exponentially more so. I've used them in gyms, but I'm not sure are they fit for an apartment.

John_H 29.10.2020 11:08

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
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Originally Posted by Ato (Post 3232778)
Are they quite loud with the fan? Compared to the magnetic resistance I'm guessing they are exponentially more so. I've used them in gyms, but I'm not sure are they fit for an apartment.

It's hard to gauge.. I'm normally in a fairly big warehouse type place so the sound is lost a bit..
They can make a a lot of wind and big whooshing type noise, it's totally proportional to how hard you are riding it..

Riding it hard enough to make a real big noise wouldn't last very long..these are hard work.

A more gentle pace is fairly quiet, wind blowing through the long grass on a summer day vs a freight train going through a tunnel.

Talk to you later 08.01.2021 10:24

Re: Indoor bike- vs cheaper knock offs?
 
Bloody out of stock Schwinn IC7 and IC8 everywhere!

Chuff 08.01.2021 10:31

Re: Indoor bike- vs cheaper knock offs?
 
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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3259982)
Bloody out of stock Schwinn IC7 and IC8 everywhere!

Seems to be around a week lead time here https://www.sport-tiedje.ch/schwinn-...SAAEgK1XfD_BwE

Talk to you later 08.01.2021 11:00

Re: Indoor bike- vs cheaper knock offs?
 
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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3259985)
Seems to be around a week lead time here https://www.sport-tiedje.ch/schwinn-...SAAEgK1XfD_BwE

Interesting, did not come up in my search. They have shop in ZH so that is good, incase bike breaks down. I think I bought a pull up bar many years ago from that shop. Normally I try to buy from Digitec/Galaxus due their superior service compared to typical Swiss shops.
Ok, thanks Chuff :D

Treverus 08.01.2021 11:00

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
There used to be a manufacturer in Germany called “Tomahawk”. They’ve been bought by the US life fitness group.

Their “entry level” model is about 1k and pretty much what most gyms in DE use for groups that don’t need apps or tv... https://www.lifefitness.com/en-us/ca...roup-x/icg-ic2

Talk to you later 08.01.2021 11:39

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
Treverus, they don't have Swiss distributor, closest is Germany. With Schwinn, you get a solid product with proven track record and local ZH shop.

Treverus 08.01.2021 12:02

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3260014)
Treverus, they don't have Swiss distributor, closest is Germany. With Schwinn, you get a solid product with proven track record and local ZH shop.

Google ads Tell me otherwise: https://www.powershop.ch/marken/life...BoCtvwQAvD_BwE

I just mentioned them as they have been a well known producer from Europe for 20 years (and you are looking for quality). Get any of theirs, schwinn, technogym and you won’t be wrong. They just happen to be a bit cheaper on the low end. I personally would look for one of those second hand - in 90% are they underutilized and good as new...

Axa 08.01.2021 13:03

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
If you have a real bike you may use a trainer, much cheaper than a dedicated indoors bike.

Roll trainers like this one are cheap, simple to repair and don't occupy too much space in the cellar :D Pros: since you have to balance yourself all the time great for core muscles. Cons: you have to relearn to ride a bike, quite common to fall while you get used to the roll trainer https://www.bikester.ch/tacx-antares-222338.html

There are fancier and safer trainers, but never tried one like this: https://www.bikester.ch/tacx-flux-s-...r-1099757.html

Talk to you later 08.01.2021 13:46

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
Quote:

Google ads Tell me otherwise: https://www.powershop.ch/marken/life...BoCtvwQAvD_BwE
Trev, I had searched on Lifefitness.com's website by country for Switzerland, and it showed a German dealer only. Good to know though.


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Originally Posted by Axa (Post 3260061)
....don't occupy too much space in the cellar :D

Ha ha ha :p I have a real mountain bike there.

Quote:

since you have to balance yourself all the time great for core muscles.
My core is already super strong ;)


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Cons: you have to relearn to ride a bike, quite common to fall while you get used to the roll trainer https://www.bikester.ch/tacx-antares-222338.html
I want to relax and zoom out when doing cardio, not try to keep myself away from ICU :p

Caleb 08.01.2021 14:09

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3232741)
Then there are some bikes available for under CHF500, are they really that inferior for basic cardio?

I'll get a bit pedantic first: they are not all knock-offs. Horizon (the one you linked) is a reputable manufacturer of high-quality fitness products. Considering Schwinn was not the inventor of home trainers, theoretically they're ALL knock-offs.

Now to the constructive part of the post: I have used a ton of them during the last 20 years. Most of them will be, for your expected "basic" use, quite similar. The single most important element that you will notice a difference from day 1 would be the saddle, which is easily exchangeable. I would personally suggest you go to a store (if at all possible) and try 2 or 3 cheap ones, so you can experience where the cheapness plays. In my own experience the cheaper ones are much lighter, meaning less stable, more noisy (and not just from the moving parts, also from the cheap assembly design), and some parts will deteriorate faster (plastic and rubber parts may harden and crack, bad coating will allow some rust in the first 10 years, etc). The finish will also look cheaper.

One caveat: you mentioned that you don't care about the electronics so much, but they can be quite basic if the product you choose isn't good enough. Your watch will tell you about your cardio workout, but not the distance or cadence performance, and that's a fairly important callibration aspect that your watch cannot help you with. I would just avoid the VERY cheap ones (e.g. the Gorilla Sports basic one, or the Gonser model), and look at mid-tier brands better products (featuring some computer functionality).

evop 08.01.2021 14:17

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
I have a personal experience with a cheapo Gonser bike
It is an OK spinner for a beginner, with some obvious corners cut to make it that inexpensive:

  • materials and ergonomics are like an economy class car from 2000s. I immidiatelly changed the saddle to an old fizik and put some proper tape on the horns
  • squeaking is a norm for it, unless you'll put some work into soundproofing the saddle and all the bolts
  • if you can think of any feature, it is likely this one doesn't have it
On the plus side, is the price and the lack of anything complex in this construction. I personally didn't not care for anything apart from basic functionality, since I use it with a projector and a separate BT computer.

If you prefer to buy a sturdy base and make it yours, this may be your choice. Although, fitting in some nicer air resistance wheel or a reclining mechanism has shown to be tough DIY projects, so better do not buy this model, if you feel like you need any of those features.

Talk to you later 12.01.2021 12:18

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
I ended up buying this from Caleb's link, old but gold! :D

Ok, I am down to Schwinn IC7 vs IC8, main difference from my POV, friction brake vs magnetic brake. Depending on what Swiss govt. announced tomorrow, I will visit the shop and try out both bikes.

Cheaper Schwinn IC2 might have been ok too, but it has chain drive.

Any view on getting or not getting extended warranty?


Btw, thanks for all your detailed replies ;)


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naza 12.01.2021 15:35

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
I was in the market for an indoor bike as well and landed on Schwinn IC8. at the time we saw a lot of positive reviews on the Bowflex C6 but I could never find this model (might be US only). I could find the Bowflex C7 but that was double the price

I think you're making a good choice with the IC8

azt33 12.01.2021 16:31

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
And I bought the IC7 a few months ago - the price difference was a bit too much for me :) I like it, it has a VERY solid build (and was a nightmare to get to my flat, two flights up).

I just need to start using it now :P

DarkHarlequin 12.01.2021 22:13

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
We went with the IC8 and a couple of peloton digital subscriptions to try and shed some of the lockdown weight. Built pretty much like a commercial grade spin bike and advantage of magnetic resistance is low noise and range is easy to control. Pedals are crap but swap them out for an SPD pedal and put one of the virtual ride apps on the big TV and pretend you’re in the Tour 😬

naza 20.01.2021 11:31

Re: Indoor bike-Schwinn vs cheaper knock offs?
 
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Originally Posted by Talk to you later (Post 3262128)
I ended up buying this from Caleb's link, old but gold! :D

Ok, I am down to Schwinn IC7 vs IC8, main difference from my POV, friction brake vs magnetic brake. Depending on what Swiss govt. announced tomorrow, I will visit the shop and try out both bikes.

did you manage to order one? My neighbor is looking for an IC8 but they seem to be on backorder everywhere with earliest release dates in March


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