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Re: Ski Season 2020/2021 - predictions

The risk is not going to be on the pistes, and the risk on surface/chair lifts is minimal (wear a mask). Gondolas more risky.

Where the huge risk remains is apres-ski and contacts in the hotel and village.
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The risk is not going to be on the pistes, and the risk on surface/chair lifts is minimal (wear a mask). Gondolas more risky.

Where the huge risk remains is apres-ski and contacts in the hotel and village.
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Re: Ski Season 2020/2021 - predictions

I certainly hope the resorts stay open. Undoubtedly masks will be required in gondolas (imagine those fogged up glasses!) and queueing up (fogged up glasses again!) but the benefits of being outdoors and doing a beloved fitness activity while supporting the local economy far outweighs the cons.

Resorts will be doing their best to ensure social distancing but won't have it easy in the food and beverage department. Coming into a restaurant after a few hours of skiing usually causes people to breathe more heavily at the beginning so please, please, follow all social distancing in order for the resorts to stay open.
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I certainly hope the resorts stay open. Undoubtedly masks will be required in gondolas (imagine those fogged up glasses!) and queueing up (fogged up glasses again!) but the benefits of being outdoors and doing a beloved fitness activity while supporting the local economy far outweighs the cons.

Resorts will be doing their best to ensure social distancing but won't have it easy in the food and beverage department. Coming into a restaurant after a few hours of skiing usually causes people to breathe more heavily at the beginning so please, please, follow all social distancing in order for the resorts to stay open.
I hope so, but just having rules isn’t the answer. You need strict adherence and immediate expulsion if someone fails to follow the rules. I’ve been in rowdy apres-ski crowds some of which have a real “ you” attitude and are looking for a fight. They will ruin it for everyone.
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Re: Ski Season 2020/2021 - predictions

The apres ski can be controlled by closing all the bars in the resort, restaurants open with the usual restrictions only.
It's a reasonable compromise.
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Re: Ski Season 2020/2021 - predictions

It's cool to be Switzerland this winter

The mayor of Châtel, in Haute-Savoie, added Swiss flags to the French flags, on his town hall, to protest against the ban on alpine skiing.

He expresses his "dissatisfaction" after "a decision taken without consultation, without listening, with false and distorted arguments".

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It's cool to be Switzerland this winter

The mayor of Châtel, in Haute-Savoie, added Swiss flags to the French flags, on his town hall, to protest against the ban on alpine skiing.

He expresses his "dissatisfaction" after "a decision taken without consultation, without listening, with false and distorted arguments".

That will be a pig as half the resorts will be open in PDS, ACE1 will be able to ski
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Re: Ski Season 2020/2021 - predictions

The one jn the upper left corner (the rectangular one) is the flag of Savoie, the others (square) are Swiss.
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Re: Ski Season 2020/2021 - predictions

Meanwhile, let's hope for some snow
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That will be a pig as half the resorts will be open in PDS, ACE1 will be able to ski
Indeed, and it's worth pointing out that the Champery/Champoussin area (just one lift to access from Morgins) has a massive amount of snow-making available, since the construction in 2018 of a big new high-level reservoir. The Swiss side, often overlooked by visitors, is actually a large ski area in its own right, with 37 lifts and (I can't find the exact numbers - someone correct me please) a couple of hundred km of piste.

Apparently the work done in pumping water up from lower altitudes can raise its temperature by up to 5 degrees, so in effect the new reservoir means that snowmaking can take place at much higher temperatures than previously.

We saw the effect last season, with much better conditions and a longer season, this one planning to run from Dec 12th * up to the end of April. Which is nice.

* The PdS website only mentions the area opening from the 19th, but in other places the 12th has definitely been published, and there's a touring ski test weekend scheduled for the 13th, so we're still hopeful.
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There is no way that EU would close Swiss resorts, tbh. I can see the reasons for EU states' caution but don't think that it will influence Swiss resorts. Last season was terrible enough, I don't think they can risk closed slopes here. I am just bummed that I cannot get a snowboard I wanted in a 2nd hand store back home, finally wanted to pick it up. Falling down on skis doesn't embarrass me anymore that much. No fun.
The EU cannot close Swiss resorts. Sovereignty would prevent it. But if the EU closes but CH remains open there is no way I will ski in CH. they likely won’t miss me but better safe than sorry.
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The EU cannot close Swiss resorts. Sovereignty would prevent it.
I don't think anyone's suggested that it could. Some may feel that the Swiss would simply bow down and follow suit, but that's a serious underestimation of the Swiss character.

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But if the EU closes but CH remains open there is no way I will ski in CH. they likely won’t miss me but better safe than sorry.
Your logic is, err, interesting, to say the least. I can't see why there would be any link between an EU wide edict and your own personal behaviour choices.
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Maybe he thinks there’ll be too many people in Switzerland if people who would normally ski in other EU countries come here?
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If Austria, Italy, France, Germany (and Andorra, Spain, Slovenia?) are closed the Swiss resorts will be heaving ...
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Re: Ski Season 2020/2021 - predictions

Just bought my season ski pass, roll on December happy days.
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If Austria, Italy, France, Germany (and Andorra, Spain, Slovenia?) are closed the Swiss resorts will be heaving ...
....unless they have an advanced reservation system. My son is working in Vail, Colorado, at the moment and that's what they've implemented for the area.
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If Austria, Italy, France, Germany (and Andorra, Spain, Slovenia?) are closed the Swiss resorts will be heaving ...
Swiss life tickets are out of the price range of many, along with all the scared sheep, I don't think they will be that busy, they are not currently & some have been open for over a month.
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Swiss life tickets are out of the price range of many, along with all the scared sheep, I don't think they will be that busy, they are not currently & some have been open for over a month.
Season passes here are expensive but day and weekly tickets cost about the same as in Austria. Plenty of Germans about even in a normal season anyway.
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Season passes are amazing value if bought pre season, generally about 12-15 days of day passes.
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Season passes are amazing value if bought pre season, generally about 12-15 days of day passes.
And/or you get free stuff from the area - for example, we buy a Meilenweiss pass from Flumserberg and get 5% early discount plus a set of free tickets for their Floomzer/Climber/MTB activities, and usually some sort of branded stuff which this year is google covers and buffs with a slot for a mask filter.
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