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Old 30.01.2007, 23:14
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Hi,

My advice: If you really want to ski, go for it... but get lessons... even little kids who learn stuff automatically need lessons to learn skiing.

If you're not so sure think twice. Unless you are either i) fearless and/or ii) already accomplished in a sliding sport (eg ice skating, rollerblading, surfing) I think it is real hard to learn as an adult, and the risk of serious injury are high.

Particularly if you rush things to try and catch up/keep up with a skilled skiing partner. At the risk of being rude... what the hell is your SO thinking dragging you to the top of the hill with no instruction.

My wife decided to try at a similar age. Also fit, athletic, good balance. We got her a lesson. During the first lesson she fell, dislocated and destroyed her shoulder cartilage, had to have it operated etc.

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Old 30.01.2007, 23:15
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

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I don't know about you guys but I have not reached the maturity level where I don't think the word "Titlis" is funny!!! (same goes for "einfahrt" "abfahrt" etc)
But "Wankdorf" near Bern is still pretty funny... nice place BTW.

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Old 30.01.2007, 23:25
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

I'm sure you've all heard of the lovely place "ing" in Austria. That's what it's actually called.
And how come nobody mentioned "Crap Sogn Gion", which is in Flims...
Can you tell I'm still at uni?
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Old 30.01.2007, 23:41
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

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I'm sure you've all heard of the lovely place "ing" in Austria. That's what it's actually called.
And how come nobody mentioned "Crap Sogn Gion", which is in Flims...
Can you tell I'm still at uni?
Didnt Flims Laax have a marketing slogan a few years back along the lines of "Flims Laax - It's Crap" ... my atrophied brain cant remember exactly.

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Old 31.01.2007, 08:57
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Yeah, my experience of learning skiing/boarding pretty much tallies with the above...

1. Never get a friend/partner to try and teach you, unless they are a qualified ski instructor. Friends have no idea how steep and insurmountable the next slope or bump is...
2. Sometimes it's best and safer to simply take your skis off and walk down the hill. Otherwise you'll break something, because...
3. When you're learning, you get tired very quickly. This is because you're using new muscles in a different way, and you're also not 'going with the flow', so to speak.
4. It's ok to hang out on the learners slopes. We've all been there.
5. If you're learning but want to follow your more advanced buddies off piste then check your helicopter insurance beforehand...
6. Swiss slope gradings are inconsistent between resorts. A blue slope in St Moritz may be the same as a red slope in Zermatt. And blue/red/black slope gradings can be meaningless if you are boarding, because you can always somehow get down a slope. I guess there's no real international standard for what eg a 'blue' run is.
7. Apre ski is great, but be prepared for an onslaught of Crazy Frog / Numa Numa / Chihuahua! and gluwein

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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Whatever happened to "Anton aus Tirol" ? Classic.

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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

The other big factor is to practice! Going once per season is nowhere near often enough. If you want to be good then you need to go and practice your skiing/boarding eg once per week/fortnight. Or take a week off and spend every day up on the slopes.

Also, after a lesson you'll probably be tired and in information overload and effectively useless for the rest of the day. You may as well go direct to apre ski

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Old 31.01.2007, 21:43
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

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I'm sure you've all heard of the lovely place "ing" in Austria. That's what it's actually called.
And how come nobody mentioned "Crap Sogn Gion", which is in Flims...
Can you tell I'm still at uni?
Aaaah - The 'Crap Bar'. (actually, it's pretty good and not crap at all).

I was there skiing this weekend as it happened and snapped this pic:
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Old 01.02.2007, 10:11
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

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Aaaah - The 'Crap Bar'. (actually, it's pretty good and not crap at all).

I was there skiing this weekend as it happened and snapped this pic:
Actually there's worse names than ing if you look around a bit ... for example there's this little hamlet next to Savognin ski field, in Graubunden:

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There's a bus stop there too, and the SBB ticket vending machines will print out bus tickets for the place. Nowhere to buy a souvenir T shirt though...
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Old 01.02.2007, 11:34
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

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Actually there's worse names than ing if you look around a bit ... for example there's this little hamlet next to Savognin ski field, in Graubunden:

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There's a bus stop there too, and the SBB ticket vending machines will print out bus tickets for the place. Nowhere to buy a souvenir T shirt though...
When I drove my aging parents to St Moritz I had to distract their attention as we approached 'that' village by pointing out something on the hillside as the name-sign loomed...
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Old 05.02.2007, 16:02
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

My dad is a ski teacher, he is 70 now so he's been teaching ski for... a long time. He says:
- take ski lessons (it's his business, after all)
- first go on a nice easy slope, with no terrifying cliff around
- spend as much time as you need just walking around with skis on your gentle slope, or on no slope at all
- forget about the poles for the first week or so
- I add.. do it on a sunny day

His method tends to work on most people, except on his girlfriend. So there is definitely a point on not learning with a relative
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Old 06.02.2007, 13:56
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

My girlfriend learned skiing this season. I wholeheartedly agree (and she as well) that learning from a relative is not the best idea in the world, to put it in a mild understatement.

A ski teacher later explained me there are three zones for a learner:
1. Comfort-zone, 2. Learning zone, 3. Panic zone. You definitely need to stay in zone 1 & 2 when learning skiing, and the trick is to move from the comfort zone (initially of course that zone is very small) into the learning zone and back into comfort zone many many times.

My advice:
1) Go to a "magic carpet" in the very very first beginning to spend at least half a day or one day there (without poles indeed), to get the feeling, learn the basics, the plough, braking/controlling speed and steering.
2) Only when that is going well according to the learner, move on to a blue piste, a short one preferably with only a few hundred meters vertical drop.
3) Learning to ski is very exhausting indeed so take at least 3 breaks a day (mid-morning, lunch and mid-afternoon) and don't overdo it the first few days. If things go well, sometimes the learner doesn't realise how tired he/she is and should be a bit slowed down in my view.
3) Red pistes (and not to mention black) are to be avoided AT ALL COST. That will bring the learner definitely into the panic zone. Reds only come into sight after say at least 4 days full skiing. And again: if the learner feels ready to move onto a red - then choose a SHORT red with say only 500m vertical drop. Then go there first to see what the easier parts of the pistes are, check for icy patches and how to ski around them, check the snow quality, make sure the visibility is okay etc etc.
4) Book yourself a private teacher for at least 2 hours the first days -- they are qualified and know lots of techniques and tricks to encourage and to learn skiing in a playful manner.
5) Remind the learner lots and lots of times of the progress he/she is making, make loads of compliments, encourage and have patience.
6) After the magic carpet phase, a few good places/lifts in my view are:
- Flumserberg : Tannenboden area the D1 and D2-lifts
- Pizol : Furi-Lift, the K-lift
- Davos : Bolgen-lift, presumably the oldest pancake-lift in the world,
- Flims : Spalinga-Lift
- Zermatt : Sunnegga area, the Eisfluh-Lift, the B-lift/chair

And last but not least..celebrate when the skiing goes well at the end of the day for example with some nice Prosecco !
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Old 01.06.2007, 09:26
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Visited some relatives in Newfoundland some years ago and drove thru a little town called `"Dildo" . I just can't imagine how some places got named. It was just an in and out sort of place.
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

I was searching through the forum and discovered this thread, now I will attempt to resurrect it.

I haven't really skied before and was quite keen on learning this winter coming, is it possible to learn the basics over a weekend (I'd rather not have a week off work) and can anyone recommend a place/instructor/school to go to?
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Old 04.09.2007, 17:47
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Ideally you want to take 5-6 days in ski school to learn how to ski. But if this is not possible, at least make it a long weekend. From my experience it is usually not until the third day that you start to feel that it is coming together. The funny thing is that this is the same however quickly you take to skiing. Just the faster learners get in their comfort zone on slightly steeper terrain. It just seems to take 2 to 2 1/2 days to get used to having a couple of planks on your feet sliding around on snow.

In general you will make faster progress in a private lesson, but it is more expensive and more intense. Group lessons are more fun and good at building confidence when you see that everybody else is as clumbsy on their first day as you are, rather than just comparing yourself with the instructor who is probably more comfortable with skis on that walking down the street. The best compromise between learning quickly and having a good laugh is taking a private lesson with a couple of friends.

Oh, and as mentioned earlier in this thread, never let a partner/relative teach you unless they have the patience of a saint and preferably some experience teaching skiing.
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Winter is on its way, just got back to Thalwil and looking down the lake the tops have turned white, yeppie...
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Old 04.09.2007, 18:51
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Just go sledging, Ric, it's a lot more fun and there's nothing to learn.

Woo-Hoo! Snow time!
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

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Just go sledging, Ric, it's a lot more fun and there's nothing to learn.
A couple of months back we were up Titlis and using the Gliss Snake sledges. Soo much fun, but I feel I can't live in CH and not learn to ski.


Does anybody have any suggestions of specific schools they have been to and would recommend?
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Hey Ric don't do it!

Skiing leads to cold days in the snow and broken bones!

I say, if one can live in America and not get fat, or live in Britain and have good teeth (yes, I love cliches!), one can live in Switzerland and not ski! And still have a perfectly great life!

I mean, you go up the mountain, then come back down the mountain (rinse and repeat), and pay (a lot) for the privilege. What's the thrill? If you want to have fun, learn how to mix warm drinks (Hot toddies, mulled wine and cider, Irish coffee, etc)! The skiers appreciate it, you don't pay for a lift ticket, and the apres ski parties can still be enjoyed!

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Does anybody have any suggestions of specific schools they have been to and would recommend?
I'd recommend just about any Swiss ski school but I had the best success with the smaller ones - the ski school based at Braunwald is exceptional. There are a couple of nice hotels there too - it's a small ski resort and you will be skiing in a week.
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