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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Hahaha
My kids want to develop a new type of helmut for me...with BLINKERS...as to warn the people behind me for any sudden turns...it is getting sort of embarassing....as my children yell
"come on mom, you can DO IT"....as I am frozen at the top of the mountain, and they are at the bottom....oh my!
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

When in the US, I went through the same phase. Initially I could not even get off the conveyor belt without falling. But after a few lessons (3-day course), I could make simple turns and come down the bunny hill without falling. After a week or so I went sking again with my friends and did the whole "beginner" trails without much trouble or fear and then went on the intermediate level ...which was difficult but still no fear. My friends ski regularly and somehow convinced me that we should take the lift to a higher slope. Now, while coming down the "intermediate" trail I missed a turn and was in the double diamond trail (very difficult) and with all those bumps and steep slopes the fear started to creep in. Then I noticed at some of those turns there is no protective barrier ..so if you miss you fall in the valley. Imagine Brando saying "HORROR".."HORROR"...that is what happened I sat there on the slope and rescue team came and took me down....of course after giving a big lecture that I should never be there in the first place if I was not an expert.
So the morale of the story: Confidence is good, but use your own judgment and don't get carried away and follow your buddies to higher slopes.
I am happy that I am still alive and did not break any bones. More than anything a person like me who was sitting on the slopes...posses a risk to the skiers who are coming down.
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

I understand that the common recommendation is take a private class to start with.

Here is my question, how long should a beginner take private class ( 2 h, 4 h or a week?) before he/she joins the group class, ever? Or it is just not recommended for the group class, for a beginner?
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

hi

you are never too old to learn!!¨ or at least try, i started skiing in jan 2010, age 46, whilst i am slower than younger people to learn, i have done it and am very proud of myself!¨

i am not brilliant and get a bit anxious sometimes when i feel like i am going at 100km/h and still have the little tots whizzing past me ha ha

personally i had private lessons and we choose to go to feldberg in germany as it is much cheaper and quieter.

the ski lifts can be a nightmare and this weekend the t bar lift pinged me off to the side and i ended up stuck in 3 ft of snow.........it was funny and just makes me more determined. So......keep going but do have professional teachers as they will make you feel much safer and this will boost your confidence........have fun !!!
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I understand that the common recommendation is take a private class to start with.

Here is my question, how long should a beginner take private class ( 2 h, 4 h or a week?) before he/she joins the group class, ever? Or it is just not recommended for the group class, for a beginner?

i have had a 1 hr private lesson each week, this (for me) is plenty as your legs can get very tired when you are first learning. skiing is very tiring when you are learning so just bear this in mind and dont waste money by being too ambitious
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

You did notice that the original threat is from 2007 right? Anyway here is my own story. Started skiing this January and already been up there 10 days (one hour each day but thats irrelevant). It took me 3 days to master getting off the lifts (the things between your legs) and im still scared to go to the chair lifts. Basically i need my time and have to do things my own pace (ie veeeeeeeeeeeerryyyyyyyyyyyy slowly). My other half said in the beginning that i will be doing blacks by the end of the season but now i think he should be satisfied that i go down the easy blues. I dont even enjoy skiing that much. How i ended up with my own stuff and a season pass in day 2 i still dont know :P
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Hello all,
After years of avoiding the lure of skiing (including a 5 year stay in Canada), I went ahead and booked tickets to Davos this past weekend. I went with my husband, who has skiied before. He insisted that I didn't need lessons and, well, who am I to know? (I'll tell you, NOT a skiier).

I am not a fan of snow. Or cold. I always abhorred the concept of clunky equipment and being strapped or secure into something that impedes a quick getaway. Like skis.

But, I wanted to try ski ing (and still do) because it looks thrilling and I like adrenaline.

So we went and my husband showed me how to move about in my skis some, and then we set off to the lift (a pulley pommel thing). I didn't understand the lift mechanism, where to put my behind, hands, feet (I mean skis) and I panicked. Became a blubbering mess. The lift operator was purring something soothing and so was my husband so I went ahead and got on the thing.
So scared of falling off, or getting up there and not being able to come down.

So I get on this...thing with my husband and, I don't know what happened, but I FELL OFF, at the correct destination, but I FELL. Awful. I was at that point scared AND really embarassed.

So I pick myself up, sort of and my husband says something about going "over there", and points to some indistinct spot on the slope to our right. I am terrified of the midget ski whizzes zooming by and I don't understand the directive so I refuse to budge. I don't know how to turn on skis at this point. I only know how to sidestep and "pizza" and "french fry".

So my husband wearily suggests I turn around ( I am facing the slope laterally) 180. Still not sure why. But I do, like the spectacular beginner that I am, and I fall on my ass again.

I don't know how to fall in skis nor do I know how to GET UP in them. So, after wiggling about and whimpering some, I manage to take the damn things off and *walk* a heartbreaking walk of shame down the slope.

Of course, my husband and I are both very upset by this point. And I am hating the skis so much and they must have known, because after taking them off and leaning them against the wall, they slid and whacked my on the side of the head.

Do you guys think there is hope for me? I am 27.
Do I need a lesson?
Can all that harm (the fear, the falling, the failure) associated with my first time be undone? (don't smirk)
What did I do wrong? Technically?

Any advice is really appreciated. I am not ready to give up but I am thinking about sneaking away to Flumserberg on a weekday to learn on my own. And with a paid instructor. Unbeknownst to some.

Thanks guys.
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

I did wonder why Wollishofener responded to an old thread? Bad sort order was it?

I started skiing five years ago. It was only two years ago that I was comfortable going down black slopes - that'd would be after 40 or so ski days (we do normally about 20 ski days per year now ). My wife and I are both largely self-taught.

If your going for a ski-holiday for a week - then get lessons. Good, intensive instruction will get you skiing relatively quickly. If, like us, you were only able to do a day at a time, and you've got the patience then you can teach yourself (or with the assistance of experienced friends)... starting on the really baby stuff and slowly working your way up. It'll take longer than if you have a good instructor.

The OP's experience - put skis on, get on lift - is simply incredibly reckless.
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

I love going back to older threads. It's like reading back through your old diaries.

Anyway, I do have a skiing question that perhaps some of you experts can help me with.

I have been skiing for 34 years. Yes, you heard me. However, only for one week per year. It seems the older I get, the more scared I get. When I was younger, I used to whiz down black slopes, do moguls, etc.

Now, however, when things get really steep, (I am now 47 years old), I start to freeze up and get terrified and actually revert back to a pizza pie!!! I have become afraid of falling and hurting/breaking something. Is this normal? Has anyone ever heard of this?

On greens and blues I am still poetry in motion. But when I start going too fast, I get petrified. What's going on?

And, you know what's weird? If I don't know what "color" of slope I'm on, I'm fine. But if I know that it is a red or, God forbid, a black, I have a meltdown.

Advice?
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I love going back to older threads. It's like reading back through your old diaries.

Anyway, I do have a skiing question that perhaps some of you experts can help me with.

I have been skiing for 34 years. Yes, you heard me. However, only for one week per year. It seems the older I get, the more scared I get. When I was younger, I used to whiz down black slopes, do moguls, etc.

Now, however, when things get really steep, (I am now 47 years old), I start to freeze up and get terrified and actually revert back to a pizza pie!!! I have become afraid of falling and hurting/breaking something. Is this normal? Has anyone ever heard of this?

On greens and blues I am still poetry in motion. But when I start going too fast, I get petrified. What's going on?

And, you know what's weird? If I don't know what "color" of slope I'm on, I'm fine. But if I know that it is a red or, God forbid, a black, I have a meltdown.

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Dont ask for the colour of the slope you are on?

I guess what happens is normal. When you are older you actually know the risks involved. When you are young you are not afraid of anything
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Great to see a 2 year old thread revived. As such, I feel the right to offer this rant on skiing. For the sake of this rant, I consider skiing and snowboarding the same activity.

Learning to ski is similar to driving. It is best to avoid a love one's caring instruction and leave it to somebody who is not emotionally involved.

Living in Switzerland, you are blessed with at least half of the best ski resorts in the World. period. Respect how fortunate you are and be humbled by the opportunity afforded you. There are millions of people who would give their left leg to have the same opportunity. Until October, I was one of them.

Do not complain about cold. Cold is when your eyes freeze shut when you blink. You can dress for any cold you will encounter in Switzerland.

Do not complain about queues - they are avoidable if you get up early enough.

Do not complain about how difficult skiing is. Nothing worth doing is easy.

Do not complain about the weather, you will never control it.

Skiing is one of the most personal and satisfying of all sports. You as an individual control your choice in equipment, the runs you take and how aggressive you want to go. If you are bitter and disappointed with our results you have only yourself to blame.

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Great to see a 2 year old thread revived. As such, I feel the right to offer this rant on skiing. For the sake of this rant, I consider skiing and snowboarding the same activity.

Learning to ski is similar to driving. It is best to avoid a love one's caring instruction and leave it to somebody who is not emotionally involved.

Living in Switzerland, you are blessed with at least half of the best ski resorts in the World. period. Respect how fortunate you are and be humbled by the opportunity afforded you. There are millions of people who would give their left leg to have the same opportunity. Until October, I was one of them.

Do not complain about cold. Cold is when your eyes freeze shut when you blink. You can dress for any cold you will encounter in Switzerland.

Do not complain about queues - they are avoidable if you get up early enough.

Do not complain about how difficult skiing is. Nothing worth doing is easy.

Do not complain about the weather, you will never control it.

Skiing is one of the most personal and satisfying of all sports. You as an individual control your choice in equipment, the runs you take and how aggressive you want to go. If you are bitter and disappointed with our results you have only yourself to blame.

end of rant,
have to agree. i think skiing is the only thing that kept me sane this winter!

it's not for everyone, though and i can imagine if you don't like heights, the cold and falling then it's probably not the sport for you.

i never learned to ski properly but with am now managing to get about ok - there's something to be said for peer pressure forcing you to ski on more difficult slopes than you might want to!
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Flumserberg/Hoch Ybrig is the best place to ease-in beginners IMO.

Engelberg is a trial by ordeal if you try Titlis. Nice village and sledging though.

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are you referring to runs 1 and 1a?

can someone who has been to both flumserberg and engelberg say how these compare to runs 40 or 27 in flumserberg.

i get confused sometimes by the grading of slopes. you'd think with a 3 colour system you could have something like: easy, moderate and hard - but often it seems the colours could as well have been assigned randomly.
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

Don't do my mistake. I tried snowboarding without lessons and first time I was on the board fell and broke my shoulder. As if it were not enough, after more than a year to get my shoulder back to normal, I decided to ski cos thought it would be a bit like water skiing which I did quite often back home. Wrong!!!! Although I managed more than snowboarding, I fell again and injured my knee which is reallly painful now. At this point I'm scared of trying again but I have to cos it's one of the main things to do here in winter. Next time round, not without an instructor. So if you want to go to Flumselberg or somewhere close to Zurich and get an instructor together, PM me. I know a number of very good beginner slopes close to Zurich.
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Now, however, when things get really steep, (I am now 47 years old), I start to freeze up and get terrified and actually revert back to a pizza pie!!! ...
One of the things that really helped me was when someone told me "Your body knows how to ski". I'm only a little younger than you, and have been skiing for only 5 years. I'm happy going down most black runs, but I still, from time to time, have to screw up my courage to get started. Calm myself, and remember - I can do this, I ski well, I'm not going to fall. ( I'm far more likely to fall on a gently slope, or when standing still )

On Saturday, though, I was teaching a child to ski, and we went down the 3.5km sledge run at Belchen-Seilbahn in the Black Forest. Slowly and sedately. And I still enjoyed it!

Stick to slopes you're happy with. Why not?
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Re: New to Skiing - the nightmare

True

Im having fun on the greens. Why should i stress myself on other slopes and not enjoy it? Im not going to be a world champion. Im just having some fun
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