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Old 10.10.2010, 13:16
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Ski helmets (wrapping round your head, much like motorcycle helmets) limit your periferal vision and hearing - thus making the wearer more dangerous on the slope. They also give the wearer a false sense of security (propelling them faster) and result in greater damage to the other person when there is an accident. This is much the same as bull-bars on an SUV - great for the owner, but dangerous for the rest of the traffic. I am not yet convinced that banning them for adults would not actually improve safety on the slope.
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Ski helmets (wrapping round your head, much like motorcycle helmets) limit your periferal vision and hearing - thus making the wearer more dangerous on the slope. They also give the wearer a false sense of security (propelling them faster) and result in greater damage to the other person when there is an accident. This is much the same as bull-bars on an SUV - great for the owner, but dangerous for the rest of the traffic. I am not yet convinced that banning them for adults would not actually improve safety on the slope.
You could use your argument for any sport or activity where helmets are usually worn.
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You could use your argument for any sport or activity where helmets are usually worn.
Not sure where the logic in this is. Cycle helmets don't cover your ears, they don't restrict your vision, and they are not large/hard enough to cause damage to other cyclists (not that there are all that many collisions between cyclists). Yes they give mountainbikers the feeling that they can go faster but its only the odd tree that will be the loser on that one...

Snowboarders going off-piste is another thing altogether, but the bulk of the people I know who wear helmets while skiing are afraid of colliding with other skiiers (as does the commentary in the thread). This is like an arms race - sooner or later we'll all be forced into the helmet and body protection just because the idiot running into us will be wearing them, and we would otherwise come off much worse. I certainly genuinely fear the helmeted skiiers running parallel down the slope with me, oblivious to my presence, cocooned in the feeling that he/she is 'safe'.
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Re: Do you wear a helmet when skiing or snowboarding?

BTW, once upon a time cycle helmets looked like motor-cycle helmets (i.e. down to the neck), and they were almost dangeous to wear - the wearer simply lost a load of impulses (sight, hearing) from the surrounds, and they were heavy. Maybe ski helmets will go through the same evolution?
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Re: Do you wear a helmet when skiing or snowboarding?

I've never a worn a helmet in all the time i've been skiing... i've started to think more about it now and may get one shortly for this season. I know it will feel very weird wearing one though, it will really need some getting used to despite the increased safety aspect of not cracking my skull if I hit something hard... i'm so used to having a light hat on that I imagine the extra weight and restriction will annoy me for a bit.
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Snowboarders going off-piste is another thing altogether, but the bulk of the people I know who wear helmets while skiing are afraid of colliding with other skiiers (as does the commentary in the thread). This is like an arms race - sooner or later we'll all be forced into the helmet and body protection just because the idiot running into us will be wearing them, and we would otherwise come off much worse. I certainly genuinely fear the helmeted skiiers running parallel down the slope with me, oblivious to my presence, cocooned in the feeling that he/she is 'safe'.
How about people wearing big goggles over a thick woolly hat with the band of the googles firmly over the ears? I bet they too have problems with hearing and peripheral vision

Do you fear these people too?

When I was younger, I never wore a helmet when free-climbing/soloing but I always did in winter when mountaineering.

There's a big argument that you're more likely to get hit by a rock or ice when winter climbing compared with free-climbing in summer but the nearest I got to breaking my skull was falling to the ground when soloing. It wasn't high but I narrowly missing smashing my head on a sharp rock.

Anyway, whether I wore a helmet or not was nothing to do with safety but I was simply following the current trends and fashions of the time.

Now I'm older, I don't really care what other people think though I quite like the fact that the majority of people living, skiing and snowboarding in Switzerland appear to be wearing helmets.
I know that English people coming out here for a week or two weeks holiday almost never wear them.
Everyone I know here personally who was bought up on skiing and who have been skiing all their lives have all started to wear helmets.
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Ski helmets (wrapping round your head, much like motorcycle helmets) limit your periferal vision and hearing - thus making the wearer more dangerous on the slope.
My goggles do more so. Should I wear sunglasses instead or nothing at all?

Would that make you feel safer?
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Ski helmets (wrapping round your head, much like motorcycle helmets) limit your periferal vision and hearing - thus making the wearer more dangerous on the slope. They also give the wearer a false sense of security (propelling them faster) and result in greater damage to the other person when there is an accident. This is much the same as bull-bars on an SUV - great for the owner, but dangerous for the rest of the traffic. I am not yet convinced that banning them for adults would not actually improve safety on the slope.
Don't know what kind of cruddy helmet you have, but my ski helmet does not limit my peripheral vision and has holes where the ear padding is so the noise reduction is no different to wearing a woolly hat or ear warmers.
It also keeps my head protected from the elements much better than a hat.

As to having a false sense of security I would say that modern Skis are a more significant factor in this than anything else, because they make people believe they can ski better than they actually are capable of.

All the more reason to be wearing a helmet when those crazy guys come hurtling down the slopes thinking they are in control.
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Just watch a bunch of skiiers in a queue - the ones with helmets are forever moving their upper body in order to look / hear in a direction beside or behind them. And yes, most helmet wearers also wear goggles, which make the situation much worse. A pair of wrap-around sunglasses is indeed infinitely better.

But most helmet wearers are of course just following the trend, and not really aware of safety. How else can you explain the number of them using earphone / music players...? Many helmets now have in-built facilities for this - this is unbelievably counter-safety. If there was one thing that surely can justifiably be banned on the piste, its music players. I can't believe the hypocracy of the helmet manufacturers!
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Re: Do you wear a helmet when skiing or snowboarding?

Always since the kid's I have to show the right example
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Re: Do you wear a helmet when skiing or snowboarding?

tried it first skiing in norway when it was -22. found it comfy and warm and have worn one since. if it was warm enough I'd ski naked.
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BTW, once upon a time cycle helmets looked like motor-cycle helmets (i.e. down to the neck), and they were almost dangeous to wear - the wearer simply lost a load of impulses (sight, hearing) from the surrounds, and they were heavy. Maybe ski helmets will go through the same evolution?
Just so we can pitch our replies accordingly, can you give us some indication of approximately which century you're living in
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Re: Do you wear a helmet when skiing or snowboarding?

I agree with you about the hypocrisy of headphones, but listening to music and wearing a helmet are not the same.

I am not going to force anybody to wear a helmet (except my son, but he just takes it for granted), but I cannot see how wearing a helmet can really make the slopes more dangerous than before as Eiger is trying to argue.

I assume you will next be arguing that every skier on the world cup circuit only wears a helmet for reasons of sponsorship, etc, etc.
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Sort of relevant - After watching On Her Majesties Secret Service yesterday there is a part of me that yurns for Skiing to be what it used to be: An all-in-one romper-suited posh pub crawl up a mountain; more fur than fear.

The helmetisation of the pistes was all part of the transition...most snowboarders now dress like they're off to fight the Alien hoard rather than pootle down a slope.

If i was a millionaire i'd open a non-pisted, spandex and helmet free ski resort with old school lifts that someone has to lock you in. Maybe with Telly Savalas smoking furiously at the top of the ski lift. Maybe Diana Rigg as a Chalet Girl. This post may have reached its natural end.
I'll buy a season ticket for that.

I would expect the resort to serve excellent Martinis
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ahahah, you are stirring fabulous memories here. Our Gymnase/Lycée had a ski trip to Grindelwald that year. We used to see the filming on the pistes and the skating rink everyday. Diana Rigg could hardly stand on skis - and yet in the film she was an expert. Very funny. At night we 6th formers used to wait for the younger kids and teachers to sleep, then used to go out of the window to go to the local bar/disco, where Lazenby and Rigg were usually dining or having a drink. I went to ask them for an autograph, and they were really friendly - I was so proud of having made myself understood, aged 16 and from a little mountain town.
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Re: Do you wear a helmet when skiing or snowboarding?

Skied without a helmet once and got terrible concussion. While a helmet might not look so great neither does lying in a hospital bed!
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Just watch a bunch of skiiers in a queue - the ones with helmets are forever moving their upper body in order to look / hear in a direction beside or behind them. And yes, most helmet wearers also wear goggles, which make the situation much worse. A pair of wrap-around sunglasses is indeed infinitely better.

But most helmet wearers are of course just following the trend, and not really aware of safety. How else can you explain the number of them using earphone / music players...? Many helmets now have in-built facilities for this - this is unbelievably counter-safety. If there was one thing that surely can justifiably be banned on the piste, its music players. I can't believe the hypocracy of the helmet manufacturers!
Are you smoking crack?
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Don't care if you don't wear one. I do.

If you then die, there will be one less person in the queue to the top. I'll still be
there though to enjoy it..
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Just watch a bunch of skiiers in a queue - the ones with helmets are forever moving their upper body in order to look / hear in a direction beside or behind them. And yes, most helmet wearers also wear goggles, which make the situation much worse. A pair of wrap-around sunglasses is indeed infinitely better.
This part is of course complete BS. Ski helmets are not wrap-around (apart from a few race helmets) and simply do not interfere with peripheral vision. Goggles are a different matter and nothing to do with helmets. I wear sunglasses with mine.

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.....They also give the wearer a false sense of security (propelling them faster).
This effect OTOH is well known and documented. Goes under the name of risk compensation and applies to almost any safety equipment - ski helmets, bike helmets, car seat belts.....

Still not enough reason to not wear a helmet, imo.
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Re: Do you wear a helmet when skiing or snowboarding?

Wading in here: I wear a helmet.

I started to wear one when we were skiing in poor snow in Chamonix - lots of rocks under a thin cover of snow. If you fell over there was a good chance of injury.

There's also the high risk of someone running into you. I wear my helmet to protect me from others - I usually ski within my limits (and I am a pretty good skier). The last time I ran into someone was 20 years ago.

Since Chamonix, I nearly always wear one, unless I am with my children on the nursery slope.

Peripheral vision? I wear goggles - and as stated above - they "block" any vision rather than the helmet. And glasses aren't an option, as my eyes water too much, risking loss of contact lenses.

Hearing - you hear enough. I would suggest that those who are complaining about it and suggesting it as a "weak" spot, probably haven't skied with one vs. a hat or something else to keep you ears warm.

On the topic of warmth, well, they keep you much more comfy than anything else. I don't bother with a hat now.

As for style (someone mentioned they don't look good)... mine does
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