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Old 19.03.2014, 11:26
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Not off topic at all. It does take time and some lobbying to get our trails. I understand the environmental impacts when starting from scratch and one must build trails and lifts but we don't have that problem here in CH as the infrastructure is already there. What I don't understand is how opposed to MTB the green parties are. When built right MTB trails pose little if any environmental impact, the main theme here is erosion which if built right is not a theme. The green parties sort of shoot themselves in the foot by banning MTBing cause it's MTBing that's gets people out into nature and most MTBers what to preserve our nature so we can have trails to ride. Another false statement is that MTB trails destroy vegetation. A trail is nothing more than a small scratch on the surface of the soil and guess what happens when you close the trail or people stop riding (or walking) on the trail? Everything grows back within a year or two, so I don't see what problem greenies have with MTBing.

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Well being a half greenie myself - the problem I see is that on steeper terrain MTB will tend to gouge out the softer soil, leaving small canyons that eventually become unrideable mini-gorges and streams (when it rains) which then erode even further, etc, etc.
Seen this in my biking areas here, in Klosters / Davos and in the Dolomites.

Well prepped bike park trails (like in Klosters) tend to have a firmer base and don't seem to erode as much - but I don't ride many bike parks as I prefer real trails so I don't know how much upkeep is needed to avoid rutting and erosion.
The Tamaro DH track was created after felling trees, cutting tracks in the woods and therefore disturbing the animals' natural habitat even more.
OTOH I don't see any problems reclaiming ski slopes to use as DH/FR tracks, like it is done in the Dolomites or in places like Campra (TI), Madesimo (Italy), etc.

What I'd really hate is to see bans prop up everywhere and to be confined to ride in a bike park structure as I really like long AM tours and am not a big fan of ski-lift based riding (but that's totally subjective)...

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Old 21.03.2014, 13:27
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Well being a half greenie myself - the problem I see is that on steeper terrain MTB will tend to gouge out the softer soil, leaving small canyons that eventually become unrideable mini-gorges and streams (when it rains) which then erode even further, etc, etc.
Seen this in my biking areas here, in Klosters / Davos and in the Dolomites.

Well prepped bike park trails (like in Klosters) tend to have a firmer base and don't seem to erode as much - but I don't ride many bike parks as I prefer real trails so I don't know how much upkeep is needed to avoid rutting and erosion.
The Tamaro DH track was created after felling trees, cutting tracks in the woods and therefore disturbing the animals' natural habitat even more.
OTOH I don't see any problems reclaiming ski slopes to use as DH/FR tracks, like it is done in the Dolomites or in places like Campra (TI), Madesimo (Italy), etc.

What I'd really hate is to see bans prop up everywhere and to be confined to ride in a bike park structure as I really like long AM tours and am not a big fan of ski-lift based riding (but that's totally subjective)...

Cheers

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I completely agree with you as I am also a half greenie. The solution to fixing those steep ruts or mini canyons is to either make a corner around the steep area (if the terrain permits) or import a few good sized rocks and create a little stair rock garden. The closer together the rocks are the lower the difficulty level.
I don't agree with cutting down trees to make a bike trail. One should design a trail around and through the trees without having to resort to clear cutting. But then again sometimes cutting down sick trees, or if the growth is too dense, or creating a fire block is actually beneficial to the forest as a whole. Quite a few yeas ago (can't remember if it's in Keystone or Winter Park, Colorado) the forest service needed to thin an area of the forest and build a fire road to reduce the risk of wildfire and property damage. The Forest Service worked together with the resort and local MTB community by building the fire block with the intention that it will also be a MTB trail. Somewhere else they allowed an offshoot (or a small extra loop) of a trail to be built as a way to create an erosion block. Win-Win situation.

I guess this was a long winded version of me saying that although many people think of MTB trails to be destructive they can in fact be beneficial to the local environment.

I too prefer natural single track over bike parks. I love rock gardens but can't stand brake bumps.
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Re: Downhill/Freeride Mountain Bike Days

+1 to all of that, mate.
Peace and happy (& respectful) trails!

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Re: Downhill/Freeride Mountain Bike Days

Well, got my relocation shipment today and immediately went about putting the bikes together, gaining lots of points from the wife,

I am living in Reinach Nord/Munchenstein, anyone know any good bike shops to go to, to get hooked up with a shop ride, or another local group of riders that like to ride fast, mainly focused on DH, but no problem riding to the top. I do have a car, so we can shuttle a little too, but I only have a 2 bike rack right now
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Re: Downhill/Freeride Mountain Bike Days

This weekend my buddy and I are going to Bikepark Lenzerheide for the first time. Any advice from members here on which tracks to choose ?

Will post review next week!
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This weekend my buddy and I are going to Bikepark Lenzerheide for the first time. Any advice from members here on which tracks to choose ?

Will post review next week!

All of them, on both sides, and all around. The "Back country" trails are some of the best single trails to be had but I wouldn't do them on DH bike as you will need to pedal some parts. The WC DH trail Straightline is super fun and FAST but all the big jumps are closed for safety reasons.
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Re: Downhill/Freeride Mountain Bike Days

Anyones interested in going to bikeparks more or less frequently?
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Re: Downhill/Freeride Mountain Bike Days

What a tragic fu#king year 2016 has become. RIP to Canada's fastest man on a bike. He was really back in form this year after struggling with injuries the last two years. So sad. RIP Steve Smith.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/stevie-...sses-away.html
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What a tragic fu#king year 2016 has become. RIP to Canada's fastest man on a bike. He was really back in form this year after struggling with injuries the last two years. So sad. RIP Steve Smith.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/stevie-...sses-away.html
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Jeez...
'tis a dangerous sport, ok, but when I see these talents drop away I'm really saddened...
RIP a new trail in heaven Steve...
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Whaaaaa?...
Jeez...
'tis a dangerous sport, ok, but when I see these talents drop away I'm really saddened...
RIP a new trail in heaven Steve...

One of the Pinkbike commenters suggested having a "ghost run" in his honor at the MSA race in Quebec. I hope they do this and technically speaking he is a protected rider (can race without qualifying) and currently top 20. He did have the #2 plate briefly, see above photo. Not that any of this will bring him back, just helps a bit with us race fans. He was in his prime and was a constant threat to win any race. This sucks....
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Re: Downhill/Freeride Mountain Bike Days

Waking this beauty up again!


Anyone up for DH ride during the weekend? I am based in Zürich and fairly new to this, happy to do either Uetliberg or taking a train somewhere to skip the %&? biking up part


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