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Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

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Route: Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos
Length 75 km

I'm thinking of doing this mountain bike route this coming thursday and was wondering if anyone on here has done it and could possibly give me some info.

It's the route that forms the Davos Alpine Marathon just I plan to do it in reverse because I see from the Davos bike map that is the reccomended direction. It also means if I get tired I can catch the train back from Bergun.

So, what I would like to know is whats the technical level (for those who know Davos, I consider the Weissfluhjoch - Strelapass - Panorammaweg - Wolfgang route to be on the harder side but within my ability).

Are there many definate walking sections?

Are there any really dangerous sections?

Sometimes it's nice to get a heads up!
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Re: Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

I've been planning to do this route for quite a while but have not gotten around to it yet. From what I have heard and know about the area it will be very challenging with a good few hike a bike sections. It's marked as black single trail on the singletrail map of the area. I would imagine it to be similar to the trail from tritt to mederganalp so more technical then the strelapass panoramaweg route. I'm hoping to do it myself towards the end of august.
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Re: Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

I have the bike explorer davos map and the route I want to do is marked (between durrboden and bergun) as part medium and part difficult with 2 walkie sections at the Scaletta Pass.

On the same Map the Tritt to mederganalp route is marked as a hiking path... so hopefully that means it's not too bad...
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Re: Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

Both of those trails are graded the same on the singletrail maps. But i've done hiking trails in the area that are easier then some of the bike trails on both singletrail and bike explorer maps. Be prepared for it to be difficult and if its flowy and good trails then its a bonus. I'm biking in engadin this week till thursday evening and then going to lenzerheide for the bike attack. I'd be nearly interested in heading over and joining you for that tour if I can sort out the logistics.
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Re: Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

Feel free to join if you can sort it... I fear you are a couple of leagues above my riding quality though

This will be my first big day of the year, so my biggest concern is that I'm good enough physical shape to do it. So I'm looking for a nice relaxed pace especially as its a new trail to me.

Due to the climbing I'm aiming to do it on a hardtail.

I will definately let you know what the trail is like though and would be very up for doing it later in the season as well.

I went to Lenzerheide last week - sadly not to ride - looks like an amazing area to ride, the bike attack route looks a lot of fun there were loads of people practicing and lots of others going to Arosa aswell - going to put both on my list for next season
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Re: Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

Conincidence that I did this exact route last weekend!

Davos - Durrboden is a nice gentle road climb (although there is a path by the river if you prefer)

Durrboden - Scaletta : The lower section is OK. Gets steeper and more technical as you climb. Last section is a push/carry (>200 vertical metres). The altitude really hit me on this section and I probably carried more than I would have done if I had been acclimitised. Take it slowly and it should be OK.

Scaletta - Alp Funtauna : technical downhill with some tight switchbacks. Very rideable but tougher than the Weissfluejoch route you described. You need to hop on and off several times for short carrys.

Alp Funtauna - Keschhütte : lower section nice rideable singletrack but very energy sapping. Upper section is a carry/push with increasing gradient >200 HM

Keschhütte - Bergun :
Fast steep loose,fun downhill. Again, more technical than the route you described but very rideable. Not sure how much fun it would be on a hard tail. Turns into firetrail and then road.

Bergun - Davos : Various route options but even if you stick to the road (as I did), it's going to be a long slog.

Overall a fun route. The climbing was more challenging than it looks on the map. >500HM of carrying is much tougher on the legs than riding. Scenery especially around Kesch is breathtaking. I had a good bowl of soup at the hut but there was also rösti and some other things available. Downhill is technical but it's easy to judge if it's ridable or not and jump off if you like. With decent weather, it's no more dangerous than most alpine routes. I did it alone and was very cautious but let's face it, one foot or wheel wrong and you are going to be in serious trouble.

If you've not done any 1000+HM off-road climbs yet this year then I would give it a miss for now and choose something else in the region.

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Re: Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

Hmm, thanks for that, plenty of food for thought for me.

I should be aclimatised - I live in Davos all year round and do all my riding here.

This will be my first >1000HM climb of the season, but I have ridden over 1000km since start June - normally riding 3 times a week - and I have done quite a few 600HM climbs...

I mostly ride hard tail so I am fairly used to the energy sapping jolts.

As for Bergun to Davos I can always catch the train back if knackered...

am I just trying to convince myself here thats the question??

Thanks for the info... I'll have good hard think about this!
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Hmm, thanks for that, plenty of food for thought for me.

I should be aclimatised - I live in Davos all year round and do all my riding here.

This will be my first >1000HM climb of the season, but I have ridden over 1000km since start June - normally riding 3 times a week - and I have done quite a few 600HM climbs...

I mostly ride hard tail so I am fairly used to the energy sapping jolts.

As for Bergun to Davos I can always catch the train back if knackered...

am I just trying to convince myself here thats the question??

Thanks for the info... I'll have good hard think about this!
Go for it I say. With the amount of riding you do, you'll be fine, especially with the train option. If you leave early, carry plenty of fuel and take well earned break at Scaletta and Kesch then you'll have no problems. Just be prepared for quite a bit of pushing/carrying.

If I'd known you were in Davos, we could have met up for a ride last week - we spent a few days at the Schatzalp. Maybe next time!
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Re: Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

Well anytime you come to davos PM me, always up for a ride so long as I have time off

I think I will plan for an early start 07:30 - 08:00 ish - taking nice breaks at Scaletta and Ketsch. Might even have lunch twice!

Recomended time on your link 8hour ride: - the winner of the Alpine Marathon did it in 5hrs 50mins... AMAZING!!!

One question - are the descents fast / tricky enough to warrent taking shin guards etc?

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Well anytime you come to davos PM me, always up for a ride so long as I have time off

I think I will plan for an early start 07:30 - 08:00 ish - taking nice breaks at Scaletta and Ketsch. Might even have lunch twice!

Recomended time on your link 8hour ride: - the winner of the Alpine Marathon did it in 5hrs 50mins... AMAZING!!!

One question - are the descents fast / tricky enough to warrent taking shin guards etc?

Patrick
The Alpine marathon times are amazing (although they take a slightly different route maintaining their altitude between Scaletta and Kesch (they don't drop down to Alp Funtauna)

The 8 hours for the ride is quite generous and should be comfortable even if you take it easy and enjoy the scenery.

Two lunches is an excellent strategy for any outdoor activity!

Shin guards is a tough call - I didn't use them but if you're used to riding in them, plan to ride the downhills aggressively and don't mind carrying them then they can't hurt
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Re: Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

So how was it? Couldn't have picked a better day!
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So how was it? Couldn't have picked a better day!
It was um, eventfull!! Had a really good day though.

Set of at 08:30, took it nice and easy to Durrboden, just spinning to warm up really. At Durrboden made a biiiiig mistake. Stopped for a cup of coffee. 5mins later a packed bus pulled in. About 60 Germans started hiking up the path to the Scaletta pass. DOH! Big group of bikers too, about 15 turned up.

Climb to Scaletta was MUCH harder than I was expecting, partly due to my fitness, partly due to so many people on the path. I was the only biker who even attempted the climb. I think I got about as far as you , to the start of the hairpin bends, before having to carry. Had a rest at the top.

Descent to Alp Funtauna was eventfull, I really enjoyed the descent, but did not enjoy not being let past by the group 15 bikers who struggled big time, getting off at every bend. Got hit by another biker from behind who was carrying his dog in a basket on the rear of his bike. So I stopped for 30mins to let them go. Good descion as the rest of the descent was really enjoyable.

Climb from Alp Funtauna was a disaster. I was quite happily ascending, taking my time, got about 3/4 of the way there and my inner tube exlpoded and blew a hole in my tire wall about 2.5cm radius. Forgot my Emergancy tire boost pads. Carried on walking up to the Ketsch Hutte - end was really, really tiring pushing a flatted bike.

Ketsch Hutte was lovely,had a rosti, some enery gel, a huge coke and started doing a cunning repair on my bike, using an empty coke bottle, when the owner came over and said he stocked tyres and inner tunes!!!!! RESULT. Could not believe my luck. Whilst I was there he sold two tryes and 3 inners. Definately worth remembering though as I was deeply concerned about getting home. Do all SAC huts stock bike stuff?

Descent to Bergun was AWESOME! Loved every minuite of it. Only saw a handfull of people. My favorite part of the trip by a long shot. Good riding, nice scenes and a great feeling of relief that I was riding not walking down.

Went Off road from Bergun to Filisur, about 8kms and 250hm. I really liked Bergun and this was an easy ride through the trees.

Filisur to Weisen was also an up then down affair. easy gravel path followed by tree routes.

Filisur to Davos Monstein I followed the Altezugenschlucht which is stunning, but a route I ride often.

Back to Davos on the road.

So all in all a great day. Definately prefered the 2nd half of the tour to the first, Ketsch to Bergun being the highlight. I found the climbs very hard but I think thats due to my fitness and poor technique. Descents were fine. Even on my hardtail with its v-brakes

Would highly recomend the route.

Oh and the advice to take plenty of food was a good one.

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BTW as you say the climbing is quite intense and I would think if you don't do much walking at altitude than the carrying would be exhausting making the descents trickier than they might otherwise be, certainly I saw lots of people really, really struggling- and as you say the map really doesn't do the climbs justice.

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Re: Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

If you feel like doing it again sometime let me know.

If you managed to climb to the same point as Jekyll though you might be waiting for me for a bit!
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If you feel like doing it again sometime let me know.

If you managed to climb to the same point as Jekyll though you might be waiting for me for a bit!
I would definately like to do it again near the end of August or begining of september when it's got a bit quieter. I was suprised by the numbers on the trail and would like a good run at those climbs.

Besides, I may have got to nearly the same place but it took me aaaaaages. More fitness required - need to stop being lazy by taking the lifts up - a summer season pass is a wonderfull thing!
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Re: Info on MTB route Davos - Durrboden - Keschhutte - Bergun - Davos

I'm up for it at the beginning of September.

There were quite a few walkers when I did it as well (also during the school holidays) but I managed to get them on the climb and the downhill was clear.

I wonder what the guy at the hut charged you for your tyre and tubes. I imagine he can get away with charging a pretty good premium!!

BTW, good luck to Eire in the Bike Attack tomorrow!
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I'm up for it at the beginning of September.

There were quite a few walkers when I did it as well (also during the school holidays) but I managed to get them on the climb and the downhill was clear.

I wonder what the guy at the hut charged you for your tyre and tubes. I imagine he can get away with charging a pretty good premium!!

BTW, good luck to Eire in the Bike Attack tomorrow!
Start of September sounds good to me. Looking forward to it already!

I think I need all the luck I can get tomorrow. I'm not due to start the quali race until 16:40 so judging by the weather forecast there is zero chance of me getting a dry run.

Its gonna be a mud fest up here.
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I'm up for it at the beginning of September.

There were quite a few walkers when I did it as well (also during the school holidays) but I managed to get them on the climb and the downhill was clear.

I wonder what the guy at the hut charged you for your tyre and tubes. I imagine he can get away with charging a pretty good premium!!

BTW, good luck to Eire in the Bike Attack tomorrow!
I paid 80chf for for the tyre and an innertube (I was using my spare thought I'd buy another), he asked me how much I wanted to pay him - I'm sure one of the others paid about 60chf for both. I suspect the tyre is not top quality but hey it saved me a massive hike. I would have paid alot more than that!

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Start of September sounds good to me. Looking forward to it already!

I think I need all the luck I can get tomorrow. I'm not due to start the quali race until 16:40 so judging by the weather forecast there is zero chance of me getting a dry run.

Its gonna be a mud fest up here.
Yeah, it's just started to rain in Davos, forecast looks awful for tommorw . Good luck!

As for September that sounds good to me - I'm planning to do the National Park Marathon (shorter version from Livigno to Scoul) on the 29th so a week after that would be good!
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