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Now where is that groan button.....consider yourself lucky man, if I would do that, within a few months I would be referred to as Mr Blimpy....
I had a girlfriend, who could NOT eat anything without putting on weight. Her usual meal would be the smallest tub of fruit yoghurt or sometimes a slice of bread with some cheese.

It would get quite annoying at meal times, while I was chunking in food and she would be just sitting. Sometime ago she told me, after her first pregnancy, her metabolism has changed and now she can eat everything.

So I guess this is a problem for some, but you dont have the pregnancy option to alter your hormones?
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I can murder 500ml tub of ice cream, after a meal while watching tele, without any care. Life is so beautiful!
What's your age just out of interest?
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What's your age just out of interest?
Late 30s. How does that help?
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Late 30s. How does that help?
Because age has an effect on metabolism, obviously. Hopwever if you're in your late 30's and still dropping weight like that then yours must be going strong.
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Re: Is Protein Powder good for work out in gym ?

I was under the impression that the main reason for a post workout Banana was the potassium it provided and not the energy.

I had plenty of nutella on bread when I got back from my run last night!!

But then I calculate that I burned 2100 calories while running
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Old 12.08.2010, 12:27
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I can murder 500ml tub of ice cream, after a meal while watching tele, without any care. Life is so beautiful!
But do you? And on a regular basis?

Of course metabolism has its part to play but it has been shown through several studies, that although people such as yourself may appear to eat, and eat, and eat, they don't actually do so and those who are quite overweight but maintain that they don't eat anything actually eat much more than they say they do through snacking and secret eating.

And of course there is the quality of the exercise to take into account as well.
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Yeah im upping my burnt rate at the moment gotta keep my weight down for that karting challenge at the end of the month
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Re: Is Protein Powder good for work out in gym ?

I have just read through the rest of the post.

It has definately gone way off track. The OP wanted to know if he should drink a protien shake after his workout, and this thread went on to reference a load of rubbish articles, talk about steriods and bodybuidling, amongst others.

I hope the OP can pick out the relevant parts, to help him make an informed decision on whether to start drinkng shakes or not.

Like everything else in this world, there are upsides and downsides. Protein can help repair body cells, build and repair muscles and bones, provide energy, and control processes related to metabolism. I think JlaR covered the downsides.
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But do you? And on a regular basis?

Of course metabolism has its part to play but it has been shown through several studies, that although people such as yourself may appear to eat, and eat, and eat, they don't actually do so and those who are quite overweight but maintain that they don't eat anything actually eat much more than they say they do through snacking and secret eating.

And of course there is the quality of the exercise to take into account as well.
Nopes, but not because of weight concerns but too much suger and processed stuff. I eat a lot, but not junk, only what I prepare at home.
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It has definately gone way off track. The OP wanted to know if he should drink a protien shake after his workout, and this thread went on to reference a load of rubbish articles, talk about steriods and bodybuidling, amongst others.
The thread is about bodybuilding, ie: improving your body. Most of it was relevant to the OP before some people started to get up on their pedestal and go off track.
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Now where is that groan button.....consider yourself lucky man, if I would do that, within a few months I would be referred to as Mr Blimpy....
Ditto here... If I'd follow that kind of regime I'd be "wasted" within a week

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The thread is about bodybuilding, ie: improving your body. Most of it was relevant to the OP before some people started to get up on their pedestal and go off track.
Agreed that this thread is about imroving health and fitness.
I was more refering to the serious/pro bodybuilding comments & the posts about Arni. I didn't get the impressions from the original post that he wanted to be HUGE, just a regular guy working out in the gym.
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Re: Is Protein Powder good for work out in gym ?

Whether he wants to be huge or not, he is asking whether protein is a good idea to build up muscle. Therefore all examples of any weightlifters using it regularly as a supplement to build muscle can only help to answer the question.
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Old 12.08.2010, 13:12
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Only if the male "sympathy pregnancy" thing would kick in

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I had a girlfriend, who could NOT eat anything without putting on weight. Her usual meal would be the smallest tub of fruit yoghurt or sometimes a slice of bread with some cheese.

It would get quite annoying at meal times, while I was chunking in food and she would be just sitting. Sometime ago she told me, after her first pregnancy, her metabolism has changed and now she can eat everything.

So I guess this is a problem for some, but you dont have the pregnancy option to alter your hormones?
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But do you? And on a regular basis?

Of course metabolism has its part to play but it has been shown through several studies, that although people such as yourself may appear to eat, and eat, and eat, they don't actually do so and those who are quite overweight but maintain that they don't eat anything actually eat much more than they say they do through snacking and secret eating.

And of course there is the quality of the exercise to take into account as well.
Thinking about it and not wanting to misguide anyone, I think you are right. I can eat a lot and I do sometimes when I feel like. But on daily basis, I dont quite. I dont have breakfast and dont snack, only sometimes.
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Whether he wants to be huge or not, he is asking whether protein is a good idea to build up muscle. Therefore all examples of any weightlifters using it regularly as a supplement to build muscle can only help to answer the question.
Well he's actually asking whether protein powder is good for this.

I don't think anyone here would disagree that protein is required to build muscles.

I thought that it had been shown recently that most of us get far more protein than we need on a daily basis anyway so supplements are a waste of time.
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Thinking about it and not wanting to misguide anyone, I think you are right. I can eat a lot and I do sometimes when I feel like. But on daily basis, I dont quite. I dont have breakfast and dont snack, only sometimes.
Thanks for that. It kind of adds substance to what I have observed myself.
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The Swiss Federal Nutrition dep't suggests 0.8 gr/kg of body weight as the ideal protein intake for the "normal" man and woman - but nothing is being said about training regimes.



I guess I 'm going to stay on the safe side - 0.8gr/kg and try to improve my body mass index (surrently 82Kg per 183 cm), my cardio condition and work on my leg muscles. I might pop the occasional whey shake when I don0t have time for a proper lunch, otherwise I'll let Mrs GroOve (a dietary cook) guide me expertly...

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How do you calculate the 0.8 if you are overweight? Do you calculate for your present weight or for your ideal weight?
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How do you calculate the 0.8 if you are overweight? Do you calculate for your present weight or for your ideal weight?
I don't think you actually calculate it yourself - calorie counting is one thing but protein counting is getting a bit silly.

But to answer your question - your muscles need protein - your fat doesn't so I would assume that it would be for your ideal weight (if you are not training to put on muscle).
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Re: Is Protein Powder good for work out in gym ?

i must admist i skipped past pages 3 onwards after about 5 posts were the same people having a go at each other.

I used to be a small time PT, i would only recommend protein powders for those whose diets werent that great and guess what it turned out to be quite a few.

the good thing about protein is that its takes longer to be stored and turned into fat, some of it goes out the other end so to speak.

heres some things to put the picture together (i apologize if they were posted before)

1. muscles micro tear when worked, when the repair/heal, the fibres are bigger stronger (hence size/strength)

2. BMR (base metabolic rate) increase after exercise (the rate your body absorbs things/digestion/energy) -thats why people like to have shakes after exercise

3. protein is a common body repairing agent. Bodies normally use these agents for energy in this order, carbs, fats, protein -hence why it doesnt like to store so much protein and takes longer to turn into fat).

4. Bodies use energy to repair which could be carbs or fat.

so take protein if you think your diet isnt good enough, its good to do it only after exercise as your BMR increases and also this means your only having the shake after a workout (so hopefully its not wasted or stored as fat) I helps if you want quicker results and are prepared to do the 3-4 times a week thing to gain size and strength. that being said i only used shakes when i was dedicated (before i had a full time job). i still belive natural is best, but with todays hectic lifestyles its harder to get the best diet.

anyway I eat enough junk/fat for my body to repair itself, go to the gym on and off, dont really want more size and yes proteins can get expensive. so i dont use protein supplements.

hopefully theres enough here for you to make your own decision...
your body, your wallet, your time, your dedication...so your decision.

good luck either way.
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