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Re: Swiss train police to carry guns

You guys now Jamie and Adam? Known for blowing things up and busting myths.
Here is one involving an airplane, a window, and a gun.

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Old 11.12.2012, 10:45
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Almost true, myth busters proved that you can shoot holes in a pressurized aircraft and nothing happens.
What they did not do however was to shoot holes in a aircraft traveling at just under the speed of sound or over, hit in the wrong place from inside out the slipstream can peel the skin back like a banana, theoretically.
I understand what you're saying, but in reality, most airplanes aren't going just under the speed of sound. Mach .7 is in the ballpark for most jets, and even the fast ones like the 747 or Cessna's Citation X are running quite a bit slower than their maximum capability (mach .92-ish) for a significant portion of each flight.

I guess that this is a sore point for me because I've spent most of my life in the aerospace business in one way or another, and it bugs me when I see things portrayed in the cinema, TV or by the "news" that is flat out wrong. This happens a lot, by the way.

p.s. I love myth busters, by the way.
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Re: Swiss train police to carry guns

seen a loooong time ago, the gun test was flawed, they should have fired at different angles to see differing results.

i dont believe the pressure reading shown as being the cabin pressure either
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Re: Swiss train police to carry guns

The angle issue is what got me thinking, also depending on the round you may get distortion that either makes a bigger hole than the round itself or you could get a shot gun effect if the round has passed through something else before hitting the skin.
As you know that with most aircraft that fly at a subsequent portion of the speed of sound some parts of the plane actually are exposed to a supersonic airflow. Don't want to be on on board if something fails there.

Then again it is just my theory, planes seem to be tougher than Hollywood would like us to believe, however does anybody remember the Boeing 737 Cabriolet?


This is the reason that older 737's are reinforced around the section behind the cockpit.
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I read this title, and the first thing I thought was that the Swiss police have been carrying guns all this time without any training... Gotta love The Local.
They're not being trained to use them. They're being trained to carry them.
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It'd never happen in Britain, would it?
In Britain the whole train system would grind to a standstill due to the wrong type of bullets.
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In Britain the whole train system would grind to a standstill due to the wrong type of bullets.

it seems they used enough...

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This is more than a year old!

Tom
Since the topic was along the same lines (SBB Police becoming armed and "some" local administrative police in Kt. Fribourg becoming armed), I didn't want to start a new thread.

I think I forgot to mention Fribourg in the first post...
 




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