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It has become the biggest party in Swiss politics and one of the most successful far-right parties in Europe. Merixell Mir looks at how the SVP became so successful.

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It has become the biggest party in Swiss politics and one of the most successful far-right parties in Europe. Merixell Mir looks at how the SVP became so successful.

Read the full article: How a far-right party came to dominate Swiss politics
I guess being run by a billionaire as a hobby who has the ability to pour ernormous funds into publicity has helped......
Personally I would not want to be a glove puppet but horses for courses as they say.
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Very interesting article, thank you. It is strong not just in the German speaking cantons. Here in Geneva too they make a lot of noise, and it does not give a particularly welcoming picture of Switzerland, in sharp contrast with our personal experience, every Swiss we've met (properly)having been friendly and welcoming. I also feel sorry for the "transfrontaliers" who are not only the target of the UDC but also of the MCG (even more extreme, it would seem!).

Let's hope the Swiss in their majority will not forget the values they stand for and fall for cheap and easy propaganda.

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Very interesting article, thank you. It is strong not just in the German speaking cantons. Here in Geneva too they make a lot of noise, and it does not give a particularly welcoming picture of Switzerland, in sharp contrast with our personal experience, every Swiss we've met (properly)having been friendly and welcoming. I also feel sorry for the "transfrontaliers" who are not only the target of the UDC but also of the MCG (even more extreme, it would seem!).

Let's hope the Swiss in their majority will not forget the values they stand for and fall for cheap and easy propaganda.
One of the major factors which helped the SVP to grow was (is) the weakness of the CVP. Catholics in Catholic-rural cantons of Switzerland no longer identify themselves in politics with the Catholic Party. They however by majority dislike the Social Democrats, the the Liberals in Cantons like Luzern were the Party of the Protestants, so that the BGB-SVP became the obvious choice for the Conservatives among them. Much now depends on to what extent the BDP manages to position itself. And the upcoming elections will tell whether the Green-Liberals are able to continue the successes they got in recent Cantonal elections or not.

What you talk about was, back in 2003 on her 95th birthday in the Hilton Geneva, suddenly made a topic. Having been of Hungarian Jewish origin she had seen how in the German Empire (a republic then in fact) the NSDAP with the SVP-like Deutsch-Nationale Partei moved up into leadership and then ousted the DNP in 1934, and so clearly warned us about the impending danger of the SVP. As two persons at the table were having pro-SVP sympathies, a cousin and me mediated and calmed the situation. But when we were alone with our aunt somewhere in the afternoon, our aunt smilingly told us "thanks for your efforts to calm the waves, but I know of course that you share my opinions ! " The good lady passed away a year later.

The MCGE of course profits from the union-widely bad reputation of the Cantonal Police of Geneva and apparent security problems in Geneva. The situation in reality may not be so much worse than elsewhere, but is a nice thing for some disgruntled rightwingers. They might have joined the SVP but that would have meant to co-operate with some Vaudois, something rather NON-Genevois

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Re: How a far-right party came to dominate Swiss politics

Not again...

Why don't we just rename this forum "SVP-obsessed.ch" and be done with it?
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Also the "Local" is SVP obsessed. I mean, the SVP does NOT dominate Swiss politics. It may at times dominate the headlines. But in the Swiss media it is not halfway as important as on the EF ! Switzerland has a strictly proportional system, which means that a 30% party is NOT the government party. I still fail to get why so many EFfers are so much fascinated by that party. Add to this that the really important aspects in CH politics will be the results of GLP and BDP in the upcoming parliamentary elections
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Re: How a far-right party came to dominate Swiss politics

It's so far-right that it's almost Austrian.
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Also the "Local" is SVP obsessed. I mean, the SVP does NOT dominate Swiss politics. It may at times dominate the headlines. But in the Swiss media it is not halfway as important as on the EF ! Switzerland has a strictly proportional system, which means that a 30% party is NOT the government party. I still fail to get why so many EFfers are so much fascinated by that party. Add to this that the really important aspects in CH politics will be the results of GLP and BDP in the upcoming parliamentary elections
A forum that is comprised mostly of expats seems fixated on a rabidly anti-immigration party that makes a point of advertising frequently and offensively against the presence of expats and holds a plurality of seats and you can't see why said forum is obsessed? I don't think it takes a big leap of imagination.
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Re: How a far-right party came to dominate Swiss politics

Thank you! I think if you live near a border (French or German), the anti-foreigner feelings get stronger and it is therefore more palpable than perhaps elsewhere.

And as arelatively new comer to CH, I would not classify it as obsession to find out more about the politics of our host country (even though I have another 7 years to wait before being allowed to vote in any election!)

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...and, dmay, if you thank me, I too will have been thanked 100 times on this forum!

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Thank you! I think if you live near a border (French or German), the anti-foreigner feelings get stronger and it is therefore more palpable than perhaps elsewhere.

And as arelatively new comer to CH, I would not classify it as obsession to find out more about the politics of our host country (even though I have another 7 years to wait before being allowed to vote in any election!)
Huh? In Basel where we share borders between 3 countries, I never felt this anti-foreigners feeling. Even, Basel is known for not being a good SVP supporter.

SVP is just a noisy party who spend more than anyone else in ads and in useless debates instead to sit down and really try to bring the country forward.

The Local is using headlines to be on the top list when people google informations. Just to bring attention on this forum. Instead to use the good stuff in here (you know, the good share of knowledge and experience of people of this forum that some are taking their bras off with this new T&C?) and trying to promote the forum with its content, The Local prefer to play the Gossip Girl.

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A forum that is comprised mostly of expats seems fixated on a rabidly anti-immigration party that makes a point of advertising frequently and offensively against the presence of expats and holds a plurality of seats and you can't see why said forum is obsessed? I don't think it takes a big leap of imagination.
I thought that "plurality" was a majority ? But the SVP does not have a majority of the seats in any parliament in Switzerland. Sure, in a parliamentary republic, the leader of the largest party in the lower house of parliament, Tony Brunner, would get the appointment to establish a coalition government, just as it happened when in post WW-1 Germany, Imperial President Marshal Hindenburg did do so. BUT this is NOT a parliamentary republic
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Thank you! I think if you live near a border (French or German), the anti-foreigner feelings get stronger and it is therefore more palpable than perhaps elsewhere.

And as arelatively new comer to CH, I would not classify it as obsession to find out more about the politics of our host country (even though I have another 7 years to wait before being allowed to vote in any election!)
But an obsession it is if all really relevant aspects and developments are ignored, if all the campaigns and positions of the other parties are ignored, and if in case of the heaviest party, only their negative aspects are looked at
 




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