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An infant girl was placed in a 'baby hatch' at a hospital in Einsiedeln in canton Schwyz at about 5pm on Monday evening.

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Re: Seventh infant found in Swiss 'baby hatch'

Too bad a UN group ( UN CROC ) wants them banned, at least in Europe.

Bern opened one recently and Davos is expected to open up one as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_hatch

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The hatch is known in German-speaking countries as a Babyklappe (baby hatch or flap), Babyfenster (baby window) or Babywiege (baby cradle);[2] in Italian as Culla per la vita (life cradle); in Sicilian as la ruota (the wheel); in Japanese as こうのとりのゆりかご (storks' cradle) or 赤ちゃんポスト (baby post); in Mandarin Chinese as 婴儿安全岛 (baby safety island)[3] and in Polish as Okno życia (window of life).




Baby Moses law in the US

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http://www.babymosesdallas.org/

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Re: Seventh infant found in Swiss 'baby hatch'

It's a tough way to start life. I feel very sorry for the baby and also the mother.

But I think that it is a good idea to have these 'baby hatches'.

I just hope that they are not used too much.

While there's life, there's hope.Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC), Ad Atticum
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It's a tough way to start life. I feel very sorry for the baby and also the mother.

But I think that it is a good idea to have these 'baby hatches'.

I just hope that they are not used too much.

While there's life, there's hope.Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC), Ad Atticum
I agree. This is a fine line to walk. It is good that society has a mechanism to help ensure that our most helpless members don't fall through the cracks. On the other hand, I hope this does not become an enabler for people having children for whom they are not prepared.
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I agree. This is a fine line to walk. It is good that society has a mechanism to help ensure that our most helpless members don't fall through the cracks. On the other hand, I hope this does not become an enabler for people having children for whom they are not prepared.
As we all know, shit happens... We can understand the emotional hurricane that someone must go through when in that someone's shoes. If in that position, it would be an escape route for many young parents to live a half-normal life. Knowing that the child you carried for nine months has a chance... could be the assurance that makes or breaks someone.

It would be good to see these escape routes left open, without prosecution. Without them, it could mean two lives are lost.
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Re: Seventh infant found in Swiss 'baby hatch'

It is sad but I guess these baby hatches are a necessary evil. On the other hand, Swiss authorities should focus on getting these children a good home instead of making adoption so ridiculously difficult that it discourages people
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I agree. This is a fine line to walk. It is good that society has a mechanism to help ensure that our most helpless members don't fall through the cracks. On the other hand, I hope this does not become an enabler for people having children for whom they are not prepared.
I doubt it would. I cannot imagine anyone using babyboxes as as form of uhm, afterpill. It's way too hard for the mom to dispose her own child after you give birth, to just do it so lightly. It might prevent her from killing the child or herself.

So good this option is here, we have had it back home for a couple of years, all kids got adopted within a few months.
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Re: Seventh infant found in Swiss 'baby hatch'

Given that only 7 mothers have felt the need to use the Babyfenster in 11 years, I certainly wouldn't call the Babyfenster an enabler.

Last February a (healthy) baby was placed in the window in Einsiedlen; that same week another baby was found dead, abandoned in a dump, in the Bern area. That the mother of the second baby felt she had no other choice is reason enough for me to support the Babyfenster concept.

Yes, I would hope society could better support women and children so that a woman would not feel the need to give up a baby. But we have to be prepared for reality; the Babyfenster offers a safe anonymous alternative for extreme cases.

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http://www.babyfenster.ch/en/home/
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It is sad but I guess these baby hatches are a necessary evil. On the other hand, Swiss authorities should focus on getting these children a good home instead of making adoption so ridiculously difficult that it discourages people
Strange me, I always thought that it's difficult to adopt children because government feels the obligation on getting a good home for them.
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Re: Seventh infant found in Swiss 'baby hatch'

One ( Babyklappe ) in Valais is being mulled as well

In German, Der Bund
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Strange me, I always thought that it's difficult to adopt children because government feels the obligation on getting a good home for them.
They just want to make sure they are not liable for placing children under risk, which is understandable. Not placing children because said parents speak too many languages is plain idiotic. What am I talking about? My own experience
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Re: Seventh infant found in Swiss 'baby hatch'

bless those little angels..

There are many adults who long for babies but can not have them, I hope those adults can be matched up with these babies.

the gift of a child is the greatest gift in the world.
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bless those little angels..

There are many adults who long for babies but can not have them, I hope those adults can be matched up with these babies.

the gift of a child is the greatest gift in the world.
Really? I was quite happy with an Xbox and Ski's for Christmas, have no idea what I would of done with a kid, wouldnt of been a great gift for me.
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Re: Seventh infant found in Swiss 'baby hatch'

It is definitely a tough topic to judge if you are not in that situation.

I agree that Switzerland should be more flexible on adoption possibilities. There are children who need a proper/stable home but the regulations here are too strict and many don't even start the process.

Abandoning on the street is worse than anything else....

I do not believe it is means of "morning after" translated into "9mo after" but if it is possible to save a life and not ruin 2 or more, why not?
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I agree that Switzerland should be more flexible on adoption possibilities. There are children who need a proper/stable home but the regulations here are too strict and many don't even start the process.
There are still more than enough proper/stable homes to adopt these children. Look at the numbers of people willing to adopt and children available for adoption. Absolutely no problem here.

There is no sense in having hundreds of future parents and only a few dozend of kids to adopt.
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bless those little angels..

There are many adults who long for babies but can not have them, I hope those adults can be matched up with these babies.

the gift of a child is the greatest gift in the world.

Not if you didnt order one.
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Re: Seventh infant found in Swiss 'baby hatch'

I read in 20 minutes this morning that a 9th baby has been found in the 'baby hatch' in Einsiedeln.

I really feel for the baby and its mother, and in fact this issue has been so much in my mind that I'm writing a novel at the moment exploring the consequences of this action (mainly from the mother's point of view).
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Re: Seventh infant found in Swiss 'baby hatch'

FYI, the hospital in Zollikerberg ZH has just announced a Babyfenster:

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/zuerich/...story/31203940
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Re: Seventh infant found in Swiss 'baby hatch'

What's the point in offering a babyfenster if everytime somebody actually uses it there is this immense uproar in the media and people trying to locate the parent.
That way I'd rather use the order window at McDonalds.
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Just in case the parent is in a vulnerable situation I suppose.

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