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You reckon?
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Old 06.12.2010, 21:35
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Re: PostFinance freezes Julian Assang's account

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Honestly, i dunno.....but end of, i'm totally supporting the cause not the man and in this case, the man is also important, as he's the one who got the links.
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Honestly, i dunno.....but end of, i'm totally supporting the cause not the man.
The cause of the carefully leaked propaganda and the troubled, somewhat vulnerable fall-guy?

Yup... sounds like a noble cause to me.
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The cause of the carefully leaked propaganda and the troubled, somewhat vulnerable fall-guy?

Yup... sounds like a noble cause to me.
The cause i'm talking about is what i mentioned before, which is getting these dirty secrets out, for the citizens to know whom they elected and trusted......
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The cause i'm talking about is what i mentioned before, which is getting these dirty secrets out, for the citizens to know whom they elected and trusted......
"Dirty secrets"?

Are you sure they're quite as secret as Wikileaks would have you believe?

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Old 06.12.2010, 21:46
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"Dirty secrets"?

Are you sure they're quite as secret as Wikileaks would have you believe?

As far as I can make out, the revelations made by Wikileaks boil down to:

- Politicians tell lies and cannot be trusted.

Whatever next? The pope is a catholic? I'm holding my breath.

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As far as I can make out, the revelations made by Wikileaks boil down to:

- Politicians tell lies and cannot be trusted.
And sometimes, to keep the armchair anarchists happy, they'll throw them a few biscuits to dip in their tea.
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Old 07.12.2010, 01:01
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Re: PostFinance freezes Julian Assange's account

If anyone is trying to access Postfinance, the bank that froze Assange's account, the site is down due to a hacker retaliation.

http://twitter.com/Anon_Operation
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Old 07.12.2010, 01:24
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Re: PostFinance freezes Julian Assang's account

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"Dirty secrets"?

Are you sure they're quite as secret as Wikileaks would have you believe?

That's the whole point isn't it? That there isn't very much that's surprising in the leaks. In a funny way I think US diplomacy came out of it quite well. In addition there's the practical point that huge numbers of US government employees had access to these cables.

It's a fairly shameful response by the US though and that perhaps shows you how important this level of sort-of-secrecy is to them.
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The cause i'm talking about is what i mentioned before, which is getting these dirty secrets out, for the citizens to know whom they elected and trusted......
Do you, in principle, think everything people say about everyone they know, should be public info ? I know that if it was the case for me the few friends I have left would long since have disappeared.

You need to be able to have private, honest conversations or nothing will ever get done.
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Old 07.12.2010, 01:45
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If anyone is trying to access Postfinance, the bank that froze Assange's account, the site is down due to a hacker retaliation.

http://twitter.com/Anon_Operation
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Old 07.12.2010, 04:25
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Re: PostFinance freezes Julian Assange's account

It looks up to me. Anyway, that's just childish.
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Old 07.12.2010, 09:01
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Re: PostFinance freezes Julian Assange's account

The PostFinance site is down again. Serves them right - spineless bankers.
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The PostFinance site is down again. Serves them right - spineless bankers.

Postfinance ? It is working. Did you mean Wikileaks with over 100 mirrors ?
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Old 07.12.2010, 09:17
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Re: PostFinance freezes Julian Assange's account

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itself... http://www.postfinance.ch/ is down again. (EDIT 08:23 up again...)

Their press release is also linked from BBC and probably others which won't help.
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PostFinance has ended its business relationship with Wikileaks founder Julian Paul Assange. The Australian citizen provided false information regarding his place of residence during the account opening process. Assange entered Geneva as his domicile. Upon inspection, this information was found to be incorrect. Assange cannot provide proof of residence in Switzerland and thus does not meet the criteria for a customer relationship with PostFinance. For this reason, PostFinance is entitled to close his account. If there is any indication that the information provided by an account holder may not comply with the detailed valid provisions, PostFinance investigates the circumstances in detail and draws the appropriate conclusions.
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On 22 July 2010, the Swiss Federal Court ruled that PostFinance was obliged to offer all interested parties an account for payment transactions and to continue any existing accounts as part of its basic service mandate (obligation to contract). Termination of an account relationship (or refusal to enter into such a relationship) is, therefore, only possible for compelling reasons. The Swiss Federal Court did not define what constitutes a compelling reason. The Council of States responded to the judgment and incorporated a provision to this effect into the Postal Act on 30 November 2010. This gives PostFinance the option of terminating business relationships which run contrary to public and moral opinion. Approval from the National Council is yet to be granted. Finally, approval is required from the two chambers of parliament on the postal legislation under debate. PostFinance is in favour of transparent regulations which support the interests of Switzerland as a respectable financial centre and the endeavours of the Swiss financial sector.
Hopefully they can use the frozen assets to some good use - for example sending out some more Sprüngli chocolate truffles.

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That's the whole point isn't it? That there isn't very much that's surprising in the leaks. In a funny way I think US diplomacy came out of it quite well. In addition there's the practical point that huge numbers of US government employees had access to these cables.

It's a fairly shameful response by the US though and that perhaps shows you how important this level of sort-of-secrecy is to them.
what's so shameful about it? i think they've shown remarkable restraint considering what he's done in the past year. wait until he finally leaks something on Russia; they will no doubt have him killed.


let's also not forget this guy is wanted for two counts of rape, yet refuses to turn himself in. and it isn't like he's being pursued by some US crony government that would make up charges to shut him up.
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Old 07.12.2010, 09:33
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I find it so amusing that Clinton is getting so worked up. Government are populated by the least able among us - it seems pretty obvious they weren't going to be able to keep their child-like errors secrets secret. Assange does come off as a twat, but I'd still protect him with my own money if given the opportunity. I believe information of all kinds should be "out there". People have the right to keep secrets for as long as they can keep them - winging about it afterwards is just, well, amusing.
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let's also not forget this guy is wanted for two counts of rape, yet refuses to turn himself in.
Wrong on both counts. Do at least a little homework before spouting off.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...assange-police

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/wo....html?_r=1&hpw
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Didn't the rape get downgraded to 'sex by surprise'? That would mean all my sexual conquests of the late 90's could get charged!
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News just in: Assange has hired Max Clifford....
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