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Old 04.02.2011, 20:12
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

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No Sir, Switzerland does not have "more guns than anyone else". The statistics in question are all subject to the old-paper-collections, because they count the military-weapons which are without ammunition and by 99,999% inactive during the year. It would be nice if you started to accept realities, instead of chattering irrelevant statistical rubbish
According to the source provided, Switzerland is ranked 3rd in number of guns per capita in the world. How is this not more than other European countries? Whether or not they are "inactive" is not relevant. And I'm sure your completely correct about the Swiss militia having zillions of guns with no ammo.

If it does not work, you can always throw it at him.
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Old 04.02.2011, 20:18
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I could get a gun- but I think that most would agree that hoppy having a gun would not be a good idea So that's why it is perhaps a good idea to tighten up restrictions as there are lots of Hoppies around.
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Old 04.02.2011, 20:23
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I could get a gun- but I think that most would agree that hoppy having a gun would not be a good idea So that's why it is perhaps a good idea to tighten up restrictions as there are lots of Hoppies around.
Perhaps, the Hoppies should not be allowed to drive cars either, or walk down the street, for that matter. We don't want any scraped knees out there.
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Old 04.02.2011, 20:28
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

There was a person who backed over their partner multiple times and got off with being a bad driver. In the US there is the reckless endangerment driving law and criminal intent. Driving or walking I damage myself- but a gun is pointed at someone else.
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Old 04.02.2011, 20:32
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There was a person who backed over their partner multiple times and got off with being a bad driver. In the US there is the reckless endangerment driving law and criminal intent. Driving or walking I damage myself- but a gun is pointed at someone else.
How is running a pedestrian over with your car damaging yourself?
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Old 04.02.2011, 20:47
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How is running a pedestrian over with your car damaging yourself?
I have thought this through- you have to have quite a bit of acceleration so you could do yourself damage. But I don't want to put ideas in your head Schweizerblut. The spouse incident was before there were laws prosecuting people for reckless endangerment/driving with criminal intent It's not as accurate as pointing a gun. And a Hoppy with a semi-automatic could take out a few! Vote 'Yes' for Valentines day and protect your spouse form those bad hair/ broke a nail, days!
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According to the source provided, Switzerland is ranked 3rd in number of guns per capita in the world. How is this not more than other European countries? Whether or not they are "inactive" is not relevant. And I'm sure your completely correct about the Swiss militia having zillions of guns with no ammo.
When it comes to Swiss military matters, you might want to listen to what Wollishofener has to say, seeing as he has actually been a member of the Swiss army.

And he's right. Swiss people may have a lot of guns in their houses, but most of them belong to the government, and are kept a long way away from any ammunition, so the situation here is a world away from somewhere like Oklahoma or Texas. A Swiss person who fires his government-issued gun without having been ordered to would get into an awful lot of trouble, you know.

Do keep up, old chap.
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Old 04.02.2011, 21:02
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When it comes to Swiss military matters, you might want to listen to what Wollishofener has to say, seeing as he has actually been a member of the Swiss army.

And he's right. Swiss people may have a lot of guns in their houses, but most of them belong to the government, and are kept a long way away from any ammunition, so the situation here is a world away from somewhere like Oklahoma or Texas. A Swiss person who fires his government-issued gun without having been ordered to would get into an awful lot of trouble, you know.

Do keep up, old chap.
Interesting.

It is difficult for me to keep up in any of these discussions, because, as ya'll remind me every 5 minutes, I am not there.
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Old 04.02.2011, 21:04
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When it comes to Swiss military matters, you might want to listen to what Wollishofener has to say, seeing as he has actually been a member of the Swiss army.

And he's right. Swiss people may have a lot of guns in their houses, but most of them belong to the government, and are kept a long way away from any ammunition, so the situation here is a world away from somewhere like Oklahoma or Texas. A Swiss person who fires his government-issued gun without having been ordered to would get into an awful lot of trouble, you know.

Do keep up, old chap.
So DB what do you think of a gun packing Hoppy?
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Interesting.

It is difficult for me to keep up in any of these discussions, because, as ya'll remind me every 5 minutes, I am not there.
That's not the problem. The problem is that you pay no attention to the experiences and knowledge of people who are here.

Are you hear to learn about Switzerland, or to teach us about it?
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So DB what do you think of a gun packing Hoppy?
It doesn't bother me in the slightest, given that you live several thousand miles away.
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Old 04.02.2011, 21:07
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Interesting.

It is difficult for me to keep up in any of these discussions, because, as ya'll remind me every 5 minutes, I am not there.
I wouldn't worry as many of us on the forum are not 'all there'!
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Old 04.02.2011, 21:09
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That's not the problem. The problem is that you pay no attention to the experiences and knowledge of people who are here.

Are you hear to learn about Switzerland, or to teach us about it?
Of course I want to learn about Switzerland, but some knowledge is not restricted to the borders of the Swiss. Also, as you said before, I have no way of know who has the experiences, since apparently few people are Swiss actually Swiss. How should I have know about his credibility?
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Of course I want to learn about Switzerland, but some knowledge is not restricted to the borders of the Swiss. Also, as you said before, I have no way of know who has the experiences, since apparently few people are Swiss actually Swiss. How should I have know about his credibility?
The vast majority of members of this forum live in Switzerland. The fact that few of us are actually Swiss citizens is neither here nor there. We live here, read the news here, experience life here day in, day out. Some of us have been here for a very long time. And, of course, some of us are actually Swiss, by birth or by naturalisation.

Who's who, of course, will become clear the longer you stick around the forum.

But as a starting point, forget all the other crap you've read about Switzerland on political and anthropological blogs and forums, and read what the people who live here have to say about the country, rather than what people who wish they lived here say.

Klar?
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Old 04.02.2011, 21:14
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Talking to DB can be fun, educational and infuriating, but he definitely ain't Swiss. And he ain't gettin a gun, 'cu me Miss Swiss says so.
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And he ain't gettin a gun.
I'm eligible for my C permit later this year.
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Old 04.02.2011, 21:19
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

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The vast majority of members of this forum live in Switzerland. The fact that few of us are actually Swiss citizens is neither here nor there. We live here, read the news here, experience life here day in, day out. Some of us have been here for a very long time. And, of course, some of us are actually Swiss, by birth or by naturalisation.

Who's who, of course, will become clear the longer you stick around the forum.

But as a starting point, forget all the other crap you've read about Switzerland on political and anthropological blogs and forums, and read what the people who live here have to say about the country, rather than what people who wish they lived here say.

Klar?
I'll see if I can keep up, old chap .
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I'll see if I can keep up, old chap .
That'd be lekker, bru.
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Talking to DB can be fun, educational and infuriating, but he definitely ain't Swiss. And he ain't gettin a gun, 'cu me Miss Swiss says so.
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This information should send everyone running to vote 'yes'!! I've seen him eating, and if he's as 'accurate' with firearms as a fork, we're all in trouble - unless you're the target!!

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The problem is that you have to prove your need for a firearm to a government who just destroyed thousands of your guns. Also, it is my understanding that 'protection' is not a valid reason in Australia.
That's not a problem unless you're paranoid or live in a lawless land. Also, if somebody really wanted you dead you would die - regardless of any firearm you may be carrying. Even an old bolt-action rifle could be used to kill you before you even knew the other guy was there.

Besides, your 'need' for many types of firearms could simply be recreational shooting (eg, target shooting or hunting). If you are a reasonable person, with no criminal record, you just follow the steps and then you have the firearm you need. If you don't need it, why would you want it?

Just on a tangent, some of those old muzzle-loading cap-and-ball pistols can be fun - and messy!
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