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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

Eeek! Where did you find this info Wollishofener? Looks like no sleep for me on Feb 13th
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

I won't tit for tat Cariad (I've never yet given a groan in 2 years)
A defendable point of view, though very contrary to my own.
Let's agree to disagree. Neither is about to change opinion.
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

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Go read it again, in full...instead of the oft quoted sub quote taken completely out of context. I believe it states that where free states require a well armed militia to defend themselves....the rights to bear arms shall not be infringed. Written when there was no standing army. I can't see any state in America being threatened with invasion, not really
Dont forget the bit in there about "a well regulated militia."

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
People in certain parts of the world still do need to have firearms as weapons, depending on where they live. But that doesn't mean that everyone, everywhere, needs to be carrying them.

My problem is and always has been that it is too easy for stupid and unbalanced individuals to get access to firearms. I don't really know what the "correct" answer is to the problem.
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My problem is and always has been that it is too easy for stupid and unbalanced individuals to get access to firearms. I don't really know what the "correct" answer is to the problem.
Might I recommend hiding under the bed?
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

With the gun? Are you mad?
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Old 07.02.2011, 21:29
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

Yes let's be friends, although we could always continue the debate on the 'where are all the men - paper guns and plastic swords' thread :-))

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Eeek! Where did you find this info Wollishofener? Looks like no sleep for me on Feb 13th
sf.tv. Sadly the no vote has gained somewhat over the last couple of weeks.

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Opinion polls show 47% YES and 45% NO and 8% UNdecided. If the undecided split in half it will be a narrow YES, if they however mostly turn to NO it will be a 55% NO. So that it can become a narrow matter.

Nice would be if the undecided stayed undecided which would result in a narrow YES
But it never goes like that, does it. Perhaps 50% of the electorate will actually bother to vote - it will be decided by those who are sufficiently engaged by the issue and can be bothered to vote at all - rarely is this the undecideds. SF's polling methods are often flawed in that they never ask how likely the subject is to vote at all.
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My problem is and always has been that it is too easy for stupid and unbalanced individuals to get access to firearms. I don't really know what the "correct" answer is to the problem.
Worse than that, in my experience it seems to be disproportionately* stupid and unbalanced individually that want access to firearms in the first place.

* Before you groan please note I say "disproportionately" not "all" or "only".
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Worse than that, in my experience it seems to be disproportionately* stupid and unbalanced individually that want access to firearms in the first place..
That, perhaps, is a cultural matter, though.

Where firearms are part and parcel of the local culture, the kind of people who have them are more likely to just be normal folk, rather than the kind of people who wear combat gear to the supermarket.
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

hahaha, now we want to get natsty because why?

you are too dumb arse to see what will happen and look at government numbers to blind you? they want the figures to look good... otherwise they won't be re-elected.

Call me what you like, in a few years you will not think so...

I have nothing to loose, I lost it all allready with this sort of shit...
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

Please vote yes

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I lost it ... allready
That's the first sensible thing you've said in this thread.
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please vote yes

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you are too dumb arse to see what will happen and look at government numbers to blind you? they want the figures to look good... otherwise they won't be re-elected.
Can anybody explain to me the relationship between elected officials and referendums here?
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

please vote yes

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I have nothing to loose, I lost it all allready
Awww, blessum
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

Please vote YES

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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

Is this guy will be ban before the referendum? Yes or No?
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Is this guy will be ban before the referendum? Yes or No?
Yes, but that is called a bet, not a referendum.
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Re: Swiss Firearms Vote Feb 13, 2011

Well I do sympathise-if he left Aussieland because he had to give up his guns- and he came here because it seemed to be gun paradise - poor thing.
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