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Old 01.02.2011, 08:59
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Guardian Davos journalist's sinister encounter with the Swiss riot police

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...w-clark-arrest

Guardian Davos journalist's sinister encounter with the Swiss riot police

A policeman pulled me off the train, bound my hands behind my back and frogmarched me into an icy field by the rail track
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Old 01.02.2011, 09:14
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Re: Guardian Davos journalist's sinister encounter with the Swiss riot police

What you don't do around something like the WEF, where security is drum tight, is photograph and attempt to video the police in action - especially if you a fresh-faced journalist from the Guardian...
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A policeman pulled me off the train, bound my hands behind my back and frogmarched me into an icy field by the rail track
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Bloody lefty treehugger.
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Old 01.02.2011, 09:16
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I'd have been furious. But then again, Davos this week is a place to avoid

Plus he was wearing a Banana Republic coat....
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Old 01.02.2011, 09:22
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Re: Guardian Davos journalist's sinister encounter with the Swiss riot police

The police respond:

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss_ne...l?cid=29382390

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Re: Guardian Davos journalist's sinister encounter with the Swiss riot police

The comment on the report reads,
Well done to the Graubunden Police for standing their ground. This complaint would be expected from an Englishman, from a country that lacks any respect for authority and where killing someone may earn you a few months in prison. Just because he has access to a national paper does not mean he has any more rights than any one else in or visiting Switzerland.


Swiss Simon doesn't like us much!

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Old 01.02.2011, 09:40
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I bet Swiss Simon is English

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Old 01.02.2011, 09:47
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Interestingly, whilst EF has 492 members with "Swiss" in their "names".

I'm not suggesting a small minority are perhaps Swiss and it's a bit lame to have Swiss "something" as your username. But

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There's some class comments on the Guardian piece as well, including:

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Being Switzerland, I'm surprised they didn't charge you 25 francs for "mugshot services".....
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Re: Guardian Davos journalist's sinister encounter with the Swiss riot police

So the police stop your train, a woman comes in having been tear-gassed by said police, they are in full riot gear and you, rather than think "I'll keep my head down and not make myself noticed", start waving your Blackberry around in their faces. No of course that won't bother them.
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I felt a little bit sorry for the silly bugger, until I read this:

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When I explained that I was a journalist, I was unconvincingly told in broken English that I looked like a "picture on a wall" of a rioter in Davos, which I took to mean I looked like some sort of photofit picture. I asked my arresting officer if he really believed I'd been rioting in a Banana Republic overcoat, dragging a wheely bag and a laptop. He affected incomprehension.
Arrogant post-imperialist do-you-know-who-I-am pillock, much?
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Old 01.02.2011, 13:09
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So the police stop your train, a woman comes in having been tear-gassed by said police, they are in full riot gear and you, rather than think "I'll keep my head down and not make myself noticed", start waving your Blackberry around in their faces. No of course that won't bother them.
Since when are you not allowed to photograph the police? Foolish reporter, shouldn't have been a reporter. If you see the police acting inappropriately, keep quiet, calm and remember, there's nothing to see here.
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Arrogant post-imperialist do-you-know-who-I-am pillock, much?
Agreed. At least the policeman spoke English. I don't suppose he had to and I bet the journo couldn't speak German, French or Italian (his English skills leave a lot to be desired too).
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Another victory for totalitarism and lack of freedom, what next koshed for eating a KFC whilst passing though on the train?

The corporations and politicans are becoming more and more unaccountable to the very people who create their wealth and put them in power.

The police need to uphold their oaths of "upholders of the peace" and not act as bouncers/doormen for the ultra wealthy.

Guilty before proven innocent.
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Old 01.02.2011, 13:21
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Another victory for totalitarism and lack of freedom, what next koshed for eating a KFC whilst passing though on the train?

The corporations and politicans are becoming more and more unaccountable to the very people who create their wealth and put them in power.

The police need to uphold their oaths of "upholders of the peace" and not act as bouncers/doormen for the ultra wealthy.

Guilty before proven innocent.
Not really although I see what you mean in some ways.

There had been violence in Davos from the riots and from what I understand, the police wanted to ensure they had as many of the rioters details as possible to make follow up enquiries easier. Nobody was found guilty of anything. If someone takes a pic of me and I don't know them, am I not in my rights to ask them to delete it? No probably not but I might still ask. The coppers checked and realised they couldn't so Mr Guardian man was sent on his merry way.
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Re: Guardian Davos journalist's sinister encounter with the Swiss riot police

because the guardian reported doesn't have his own agenda, oh no

annoy a riot cop during a disturbance and any right minded person would expect some reaction, what a total non story
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Re: Guardian Davos journalist's sinister encounter with the Swiss riot police

I've always wondered how come no rioters have figured out how to break the riot phalanx. I mean the greeks figured it out.

Do that and break havoc on those black dressed bi4tches...
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Not really although I see what you mean in some ways.

There had been violence in Davos from the riots and from what I understand, the police wanted to ensure they had as many of the rioters details as possible to make follow up enquiries easier. Nobody was found guilty of anything. If someone takes a pic of me and I don't know them, am I not in my rights to ask them to delete it? No probably not but I might still ask. The coppers checked and realised they couldn't so Mr Guardian man was sent on his merry way.
Yes but technically they were detained without reason.

Which means their freedoms were abused. They should have got the rioters at Davos, not after the event.

It's assumed automatically you cannot do something, you're harassed then finally released after the numpty reads the book he should know off by heart. After all that's why he gets paid.

There's a whole world of difference between a individual asking to remove a photo and a member of the police.
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because the guardian reporteR doesn't have his own agenda, oh no. annoy a riot cop during a disturbance and any right minded person would expect some reaction, what a total non story
I wouldn't call it a "non-story..." but I also wouldn't call it beyond belief. I have encountered many, many police (here and abroad) "ordering" bystanders to delete photos. This is by all accounts in Western reality not an order you must follow, as long as you are not interrupting police work. Understand they can make your day longer, depending on your attitude.

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And it cannot be right for demonstrators to be arbitrarily rounded up, after an event, and held captive – irrespective of whether they had personally committed acts of violence. This, it seems, was kettling – Swiss style
This, it seems, is a bitter journalist. I would be bitter as well...but I also know my rights, and how far I want to push a situation. He sounds like an instigator, not an observer..but I wasn't there.
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annoy a riot cop during a disturbance and any right minded person would expect some reaction, what a total non story
Taking a picture is annoying him? What exactly provoked this reaction, since when has it been appropriate for the police to round up people based solely on what they're wearing, on a train, after the event? It's not like they were at the "disturbance", the disturbance was brought to them by the riot police.
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