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Swiss care worker 'sexually abused 114 people'

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A Swiss male social worker has confessed to abusing 114 children and disabled adults in care homes over three decades, prosecutors say.


The youngest was aged one at the time of the alleged crime.


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Old 02.02.2011, 06:43
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A Swiss male social worker has confessed to abusing 114 children and disabled adults in care homes over three decades, prosecutors say.


The youngest was aged one at the time of the alleged crime.

It is likely that he will only be charged for 33 due to the Swiss statute of limitations

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Evidence against the man includes photos and hours of video recording the abuse. Berger said the man had gone about his crimes deliberately, in many instances choosing victims who were unable to speak.
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Old 02.02.2011, 19:53
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Re: Swiss care worker 'sexually abused 114 people'

This must be lowest kind of people on this earth...114 handicaped CHILDREN, these are the people which we should focus, not "criminal" foreigners, SVP what do you think? Any initiative for swiss pedophiles? No? Thought so...no interest.

And I am sure that there were signs, but with "selber schuld" or "it is not my problem" attitude, I guess nobody cared...
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It is likely that he will only be charged for 33 due to the Swiss statute of limitations



http://www.suntimes.com/news/world/3...e-victims.html
Thats OK with me ,shoot him 33 times
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I am so happy this can`t happened in Sweden
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Old 02.02.2011, 20:12
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I am so happy this can`t happened in Sweden
You would be surprised how much the "solidarity-mentality" helps
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Re: Swiss care worker 'sexually abused 114 people'

That is terrible! Scumbag .
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Old 02.02.2011, 20:32
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Old 02.02.2011, 20:57
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12339534
"One of the central questions of this investigation is how such levels of abuse could go undetected for so long," said Gabriele Berger, head of Bern police's special investigations unit.

I suppose after 30 years activity he became expert at avoiding detection. And as he was arrested last April, why do we hear about it now? Why the secrecy?

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Old 02.02.2011, 21:14
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"One of the central questions of this investigation is how such levels of abuse could go undetected for so long," said Gabriele Berger, head of Bern police's special investigations unit.

I suppose after 30 years activity he became expert at avoiding detection. And as he was arrested last April, why do we hear about it now? Why the secrecy?

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Most likely, he'd been acused and trialed previously for similar crimes...and then let go after 2 months of rehab. It is fairly common for the Swiss justice system to be lenient for such cases.
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Old 02.02.2011, 21:25
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Police reported he actually abused 122 people and 114 were children.

I read somewhere he was investigated in 1996 (Actually 2003), but not charged. He was dismissed many times from his jobs as he was "Difficult"

From 20 minutes: translated by Google (It is disgusting, I don't want to tidy it up)

This man is a monster, do not read further if you are squeamish!

The accused was targeted before in his attacks, so they are not noticed. He had, for example, often spare clothes there. In 18 cases did the suspect photo or video. On the videos is to see how he is pushed away from his victims and show how this fear and pain. According to present knowledge, he put the videos are not on the Internet.
The attacks mostly took place in institutions, such as during the vigil or the intimate care. It abused the man is a victim or more often several times the same day. He felt his victims on the genitals, forced to oral sex or anal abused her several times, even during the sexual assault victims were present. The alleged perpetrator demanded of the victims and that they passed on to other victims.

The convicted man is not got first time in 2003 targeted by investigators. At that time, was determined against another shelter staff because of sexual abuse. Now part of a long prison term sentenced to work in the same home as the now 54-year-old Swiss. A then 13-year-old girl accused the man also to have made sexual acts. However, experts have questioned the time the statements, because communication with the disabled girl was severely impaired. The investigation against the man now confessed was stopped.

The renewed investigation of the men were taken in March 2010 in the canton of Aargau, after two residents of a home for handicapped persons their parents of abuse had told a nurse. This informed the home line, which turned on the police. The suspicion against the accused be substantiated and in April he took the Bern police arrested at his home in the Bernese Oberland.

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Old 02.02.2011, 21:29
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I read somewhere he was investigated in 1996, but not charged. He was dismissed many times from his jobs as he was "Difficult"
Prime example of what we were talking about earlier on another thread.
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Old 03.02.2011, 02:06
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I am so happy this can`t happened in Sweden
Oh you mean like this?

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A Swedish pedophile received permission to open three schools despite having a previous conviction for having sexual relations with a child, according to a television news report on Monday.
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Very tragically, this is not about Switzerland, or Sweden, the UK or wherever. Cases like this have happened almost anywhere- which makes it no less dreadful. But let's not say that it is 'typically Swiss' - please.
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Very tragically, this is not about Switzerland, or Sweden, the UK or wherever. Cases like this have happened almost anywhere- which makes it no less dreadful. But let's not say that it is 'typically Swiss' - please.
Odile is right. This isn't something swiss.

To stay on swiss topic, it would be to talk about what the swiss law do in those cases.
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Old 03.02.2011, 15:33
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I can understand the perverted crimes, this guy is a monster.

What I cannot abide is the inability to keep him under surveillance after the 2003 investigation. This was dropped as the victim, a 13 year old girl, was mental and couldn't explain herself well enough. This only came to light after two boys told their parents they had had sex with a man.

On Swiss TV "10 vor 10" last night they read out three of his glowing references for the jobs he had completed. He was very co-operative with his employers, yet elsewhere I read he had a difficult personality.
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Re: Swiss care worker 'sexually abused 114 people'

we have seen cases in many countries where people are allowed to do these things time and time again, one very famous case was in Belgium. After a few years in jail for the most hideous crimes a man was allowed out to do it all again.

I wonder if we should ever allow people who commit these types of crimes to be free. I am all for rehabilitation where possible - but I don't know if such deviants can be cured?
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Old 03.02.2011, 17:41
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how did he get away with it for so long? where there are vulnerable people (children, handicapped) is there not a requirement that you can't work alone, precisely to prevent this sort of abuse?
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Throw him in a dark hole...forever, or give him to the victims and their families and let them decide.
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how did he get away with it for so long? where there are vulnerable people (children, handicapped) is there not a requirement that you can't work alone, precisely to prevent this sort of abuse?
This is not the first case that I have heard about form Bern. Is Bern softer on paedophiles than other Kantons?
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