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07.03.2011, 01:46
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | Actually, SweetyPie, the Scottish Highlands used to be higher than the Himalayas are now, but we chose to concentrate on quality rather than quantity 
...but, hey, please don't let facts spoil your ramble  | | | | | You refer to the geological past, but when you are at it you might as well realize that the Jura mountains were higher than the Himalayas ever were. But such geological history things are not relevant at present. And when speaking about quality of the Scottish Highlands you might be a bit clearer about what you mean :
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and you of course also should be open for the Irish competition
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07.03.2011, 08:57
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent
Saying the obvious (to anyone with a very basic idea about statistics): If the trend changes so quick and to such an extent, you probably have a very small data sample.
So: Instead of saying that the number went 28% up, how many did in fact immigrate to Switzerland per year? There are overall only 37000 Brits in Switzerland. ( According to the Swiss government)
The numbe went actually UP from 2008 to 2009. If in the same time the number of bankers went DOWN - maybe there are less bankers than you think... In any way: If the entire British population in Switzerland is only 37000 people, the number of immigrants coming new each year must be <5000, probably far less. So a few hundred would have a massive impact on the percentages and make great headlines...
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07.03.2011, 09:27
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | Saying the obvious (to anyone with a very basic idea about statistics): If the trend changes so quick and to such an extent, you probably have a very small data sample.
So: Instead of saying that the number went 28% up, how many did in fact immigrate to Switzerland per year? There are overall only 37000 Brits in Switzerland. (According to the Swiss government)
The numbe went actually UP from 2008 to 2009. If in the same time the number of bankers went DOWN - maybe there are less bankers than you think... In any way: If the entire British population in Switzerland is only 37000 people, the number of immigrants coming new each year must be <5000, probably far less. So a few hundred would have a massive impact on the percentages and make great headlines... | | | | |
Couldnt have put it better myself. But what is interesting is how sensitive the subject is and how quick the reaction, and pretty negative too.
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07.03.2011, 09:42
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | in fact is modelled after the public transport in Britain, as many Swiss in the 60ies, 70ies, 80ies, 90ies and up to now went to Britain and learnt to know London Transport and "British Rail" (and the private companies which came out of this | | | | | <shakes head> Wolli, my dear chap, many of Europe's public transport systems are modelled on the UK/London. People went there, looked, and checked how not to do things. Result: better systems across almost the entirety of mainland Europe. The cost of being first amongst equals means that the UK's transport system is hamstrung by simple errors - albeit hard to predict at the time. Two simple examples: bridge heights & ground power lines. Because of ground power lines (vs. overhead), bridges in the UK could be built low. However, it now means that most networks cannot accommodate double-decker trains, which would greatly relieve transport capacity pressure.
Back on Topic: | Quote: | |  | | | As long as they all go to Zurich that's fine. | | | | | What he said.
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07.03.2011, 09:46
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | Couldnt have put it better myself. But what is interesting is how sensitive the subject is and how quick the reaction, and pretty negative too. | | | | | the negative reaction isn't because they're bankers, but because they're british.
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07.03.2011, 10:01
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | the negative reaction isn't because they're bankers, but because they're british. | | | | | Then presumably this thead should be moved to the Xenophobia section ?
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07.03.2011, 10:39
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | Then presumably this thead should be moved to the Xenophobia section ? | | | | |
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07.03.2011, 10:44
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | Actually, SweetyPie, the Scottish Highlands used to be higher than the Himalayas are now, but we chose to concentrate on quality rather than quantity  | | | | | I'm sure you'll tell us that way back then the Brits used to have a cuisine as well, right? | 
07.03.2011, 10:49
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | Then presumably this thead should be moved to the Xenophobia section ? | | | | | Don't feed the troll. | Quote: | |  | | | 
But it already is: English Forum Switzerland/Living in Switzerland/Swiss politics/news  | | | | |
Erm, the source is a BRITISH Tv channel complaining about them LEAVING the country. The negativity comes from the feeling that said bankers caused the financial crisis, cost the British tax payer a lot and then decide to leave for a sunnier place... the truth is at the end of the article: The "dramatic" exodus we are talking about is in total less than 400 a year. so the thirty percent increas is just over hundred people. Simple explanation:
- Financial job market in the UK was worse than the CH one for a couple of months.
- If only one bank moves a team of four people, you already increase "the exodus of British bankers to Switzerland" by over one percent.
Completely irrational populism. Can we discuss the daily mail instead.
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07.03.2011, 11:03
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent
Fear not, it looks like a number of British bankers are equally keen to return to London http://www.economist.com/node/182892...ry_id=18289282
Salient points include:
Many exiles find Switzerland oppressive
The snootiness and sameness of Switzerland
And a lower tax bill does not always compensate for the expense and monotony of Swiss life
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07.03.2011, 11:07
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | Nice to see how you guys transform news of bankers relocating to good, well thought tips to Mr. Johnson | | | | | It is fascinating how threads develop/degenerate. I didn't start this thread with any particular discussion route expected. Some of the things that have been raised are quite interesting but, as far as I am concerned, nothing useful is coming from it now.
I am quite happy if a mod wishes to close it.
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07.03.2011, 11:11
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | the negative reaction isn't because they're bankers, but because they're british. | | | | | ... and bankers is rhyming slang for what, ... again?
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07.03.2011, 11:29
| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | In London, they should heavily enlarge the Serpentine, join it to the West with the RoundPond, and below the Knightsbridge Junction with the Royal Pond, and extend it northwards underneath the Constitution "Hill" into Green Park. Separating sections for swimmers, and sections for paddle boats.
They also should relocate the ugly Battersea Power Station to Streatham or Crawley and enlarge the Boating Lake below the Queenstown Road into the former Power Station area.
And an engineeer with a name like "Ivel" should construct a vast tower, about 300 meters in height and on top a platform of a diameter of some 500 meters, and in the midst of the platform a wine-pub, and around the pub some nice gardens with ways through. And in one corner a Mini-Golf place, and in one a souvenir-shop, and in another one a shop selling good wines and beers.
And finally, in the White City area just to the West of the West Cross Route, they should build something like the Alpamare in Pfäffikon/SZ on the Zürichsee, but only about 10 times larger and twice as high.
By some productive steps, the air and the quality of live in London could be greatly improved  | | | | | Alternatively they could use it as a nuclear weapons test zone, which would probably please the rest of the UK. | 
07.03.2011, 11:36
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | Alternatively they could use it as a nuclear weapons test zone, which would probably please the rest of the UK.  | | | | | The AWRE is at Foulness Island, only 30 miles from London -and your point was?
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07.03.2011, 11:48
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent | Quote: | |  | | | The AWRE is at Foulness Island, only 30 miles from London -and your point was? | | | | | This is just a small part of the AWRE (now AWE) - the main site is at Aldermaston (which is where most of the bankers can be found - to remain OT) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foulness_Island http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_..._Establishment | 
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| | Re: British bankers going to Switzerland up 28 per cent
In the UK RBS made a £1.1bn loss yet they gave out £950m in bonuses (CEO can potentially earn £7.7m for his work in 2010, on top of his £2m annual bonus and £1.2m salary).
In Switzerland UBS CEO waved his bonus despite return to profit due to share price drop.
I wonder why they're so keen to come to CH given it's clear they're more generous in England...
In the City they defended themselves saying that they must pay these huge bonuses to preserve their "talents" from the US and Middle East markets, what a load of cobblers..
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