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Spaniard killed. Swiss wife arrested.

Thinking about some of the latests referenda (weapons, kicking out criminal foreigners..), this piece of news seems a good point to discuss:

Basler Zeitung: http://bazonline.ch/basel/stadt/Mann...story/12140064

"Am Sonntagmorgen fiel an der Solothurnerstrasse ein 35-jähriger Spanier einem Tötungsdelikt zum Opfer. Er wurde erschossen in seiner Wohnung aufgefunden. Seine Ehefrau, welche die Rettungsdienste verständigt hatte und sich ebenfalls vor Ort befand, wurde wegen dringenden Tatverdachts festgenommen. Es handelt sich um eine 32- jährige Schweizerin. Der Hergang und die Umstände der Tat sind noch nicht klar und Gegenstand der Ermittlungen. "

Sunday morning a 35 years old Spanish victim of assasination, found shot in his flat. Wife arrested, a 32 years old Swiss. Circumstances and events not yet clear.

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Old 20.03.2011, 23:05
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Re: Foreigner apparently killed by (Swiss) wife

I'm going to bite my lip and be quiet about this until more details come out.
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How is the fact that the victim was foreign any way relevant?
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Old 20.03.2011, 23:10
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Re: Foreigner killed. Swiss wife arrested.

I'm not reading OP's mind, but does the case serve as example to show that unlike in SVP posters, foreigners are not always criminals they are also victims of crimes (?!).
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I'm not reading OP's mind, but does the case serve as example to show that unlike in SVP posters, foreigners are not always criminals they are also victims of crimes (?!).
"Statin' the bleedin' obvious", you mean?

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Old 20.03.2011, 23:14
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How is the fact that the victim was foreign any way relevant?
It is not the OP who feels the need to state this but the newpapers... This is the way it is done in Switzerland, no? And she is just reporting the incident.
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This thread will end in tears.
Of laughter!
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It is not the OP who feels the need to state this but the newpapers...
The original title of this thread, before editing, was:

Auslander apparently killed by Swiss

The emphasis clearly lying upon the fact that the victim was foreign and the perpetrator Swiss.

This thread is likely to get very ugly, given the atmosphere on the forum over the last couple of days.
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Old 20.03.2011, 23:20
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Re: Spaniard killed. Swiss wife arrested.

She could've just learn to make a proper paella...
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The original title of this thread, before editing, was:

Foreigner apparently killed by (Swiss) wife
I take responsibility for that title, originally it was:

Auslander apparently killed by Swiss
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Old 20.03.2011, 23:21
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Re: Foreigner apparently killed by (Swiss) wife

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The original title of this thread, before editing, was:

Auslander apparently killed by Swiss

The emphasis clearly lying upon the fact that the victim was foreign and the perpetrator Swiss.

This thread is likely to get very ugly, given the atmosphere on the forum over the last couple of days.
Actually circumstances are not clear. Changed title for better accuracy.
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Old 20.03.2011, 23:23
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Re: Foreigner apparently killed by (Swiss) wife

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The original title of this thread, before editing, was:

Foreigner apparently killed by (Swiss) wife

The emphasis clearly lying upon the fact that the victim was foreign and the perpetrator Swiss.

This thread is likely to get very ugly, given the atmosphere on the forum over the last couple of days.
So what? How often it is the other way around that is exposed? How often do we hear: Foreigner from the _______ has been arrested, because of _______.

Today, this time it is the opposite. If this is going to get people upset not only it will be hypocritical but totally ridiculous.

So before to jump to that conclusion ourselves, we should wait and see...

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Today, this time it is the opposite.
It's a domestic crime. Wives murder their husbands all the time.

The fact that one of the people in this story happens to be foreign is irrelevant.
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Wives murder their husbands all the time.
I knew there was a positive side of being a divorcee..
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It's a domestic crime. Wives murder their husbands all the time.

The fact that one of the people in this story happens to be foreign is irrelevant.
DB it is well known that Swiss bullets conduct guilt less efficiently than do foreign bullets. He was foreign, and from southern Europe no less. Probably makes it manslaughter. OK, I'm going to quit trolling now.
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Re: Foreigner apparently killed by (Swiss) wife

I thought they meant a spaniel...
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Re: Spaniard killed. Swiss wife arrested.

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It's a domestic crime. Wives murder their husbands all the time.

The fact that one of the people in this story happens to be foreign is irrelevant.
Ok now you are the one making a fuss about it.... Of course it is irrelevant! Tell that to the swiss medias who report every crime made by foreigners being foreigners....

So why the OP is in the wrong compared to them? She is just using the same type of writting the news...

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Re: Spaniard killed. Swiss wife arrested.

Now what is relevant and what should be omitted because it is not relevant?

Let's have a try [my additional comments, not to be published, in square brackets]. "Sunday morning [albeit not very relevant, could have been Saturday night without making much of a difference, but never mind, after all we have to put something in this darn' article, haven't we?] a person [location, gender, age and nationality irrelevant] was shot dead. The spouse of the victim [gender, age and nationality irrelevant], who had notified the emergency services and was on the spot, was arrested for reasons yet to be officially stated by the police." How about this?

In American media, you would read, see and hear interviews with all neighbors and relatives of both the victim and the wife, and, if possible, with their former school teachers and the pastor who married them, lots of people sobbing in front of the camera while inhaling pop corn, a deputy sheriff showing the holes in the wall etc.. Now that's what I call voyeurism.

By the way, a "Tötungsdelikt" is just a crime of causing death in the widest sense, not necessarily an assassination, as the OP put it.
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So why the OP is in the wrong compared to them? She is just using the same type of writting the news...
The OP actually translated the news where the nationality of the (swiss) perpetrator was stated...
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I'm not reading OP's mind, but does the case serve as example to show that unlike in SVP posters, foreigners are not always criminals they are also victims of crimes (?!).
Or the SVP could use it to say how 'one of their own' has defended themselves and the country from a foreigner.

We'll have to wait for the facts before judging.
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