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I reckon Fifa bit off more than they could chew by screwing the Americans over on their 2022 World Cup bid.
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Actually, based on the FOJ's statement today sounds more like the use of US banks and the crimes being perpetrated on US soil

Predictably, Blatter looks to have continued his teflon ways and escaped unscathed
Yes, but why did they get involved in the first place.

"It is not clear what specific event - if any - prompted the US investigation. Some have pointed to the United States' failed bid in late 2010 to host the the 2022 World Cup, and suspicions that bribes were paid to encourage votes for Qatar.

"I know some people who were in the US bidding committee... they all had really strong suspicions that somebody was getting bought off," said Andrew Zimbalist, author of Circus Maximus: The Economic Gamble Behind Hosting the Olympics and the World Cup. He told the BBC that he suspected the justice department likely got involved following the failed bid."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32889845

American sour grapes again from the sounds of it.
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American sour grapes again from the sounds of it.
Are you for real? The USA entered into a process which they believed to fair, invested millions in trying to win the World Cup and got utterly screwed by a few wealthy arabs and a few more currupt individuals. They should be given full respect, as unlike the rest of the world, they actually acted.
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Are you for real? The USA entered into a process which they believed to fair, invested millions in trying to win the World Cup and got utterly screwed by a few wealthy arabs and a few more currupt individuals. They should be given full respect, as unlike the rest of the world, they actually acted.
Do you really believe the US hasn't used similar tactics? I wonder how much they paid to host the Copa America in 2016, given that they're not even part of CONMEBOL and only participate by invitation. Of course, they've now gone after two former CONMEBOL presidents so maybe they decided they paid too much and want to get their money back.

And I remember a BBC program many years ago about American athletes taking drugs. At first all was fine and they had access to the teams to talk about how they NEVER used drugs, but then around 3-4 weeks before the competition suddenly access was denied. Gee I wonder why?
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Do you really believe the US hasn't used similar tactics? I wonder how much they paid to host the Copa America in 2016, given that they're not even part of CONMEBOL and only participate by invitation. Of course, they've now gone after two former CONMEBOL presidents so maybe they decided they paid too much and want to get their money back.

And I remember a BBC program many years ago about American athletes taking drugs. At first all was fine and they had access to the teams to talk about how they NEVER used drugs, but then around 3-4 weeks before the competition suddenly access was denied. Gee I wonder why?
American atheletes doping has exactly what do to with bidding for major sporting events?

You're just speculating about the Copa America. Australia took part in this year's Eurovision despite them not being in Europe, do you smell a rat there too?
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Old 28.05.2015, 09:17
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Re: Mr Joseph Sepp Bellend Blatter - FIFA corruption

I have a sneaking suspicion that the US don't give 2 hoots about the bribery. What they care about is that the bribes were paid, placed in Swiss accounts and then not declared on US tax returns
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American atheletes doping has exactly what do to with bidding for major sporting events?

You're just speculating about the Copa America. Australia took part in this year's Eurovision despite them not being in Europe, do you smell a rat there too?
Well, the athletes were preparing for the Olympics at the time.

No, because to my surprise, Australia has been an associate member of the EBU for ages.

Australia to compete in Eurovision 2015
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Re: Mr Joseph Sepp Bellend Blatter - FIFA corruption

I'm personally not bothered why the US are involved, as a football fan just so pleased to witness a bit of action rather than the usual scripted soundbites that we have heard for years from our sports administrators and governments.

Also the Swiss are investigating the awarding of the Russia/Qatar World cups and I don't see the instantaneous accusations of conspiracy attached to that inquiry.

Either way I'm glad I don't have to call Putin and tell him his World Cup in 2018 is about to go tits up!
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As disappointed as England was to lose the event, Russia can host the World Cup. Barring a new Ice Age, Qatar can't. That should be the issue. That it isn't is testimony to FIFA's arrogance. If Martians paid Blatter enough money, he'd put the World Cup on the moon, and then say the site can't be changed if rockets can't be built in time.
As laughable and corrupt as it is that Qatar is hosting the WC, the Russian WC is no better and is also tarnished by bribery allegations.

Russia has three years to get it right, the infrastructure is poor: apart from Moscow the airports are awful (St. Petersburg airport is a dump with heavy queues at border control even for internal flights). The railways are poor, as are the roads and many of the hotels.

Russia also has a huge hooliganism problem, 'real sports fans' follow hockey teams, basketball or other winter sports. There is also a myth about Russia being a major footballing country. There was a USSR history of striving to do well in all sports but since its breakup football has found its true level in terms of popularity.

I have asked many Russian friends about the 2018 WC and the answer is always the same: 'Oh God, it will be such an embarrassment with the facilities, the aggressive police and the hooligans.'
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the US don't give 2 hoots about the bribery. What they care about is that the bribes were paid, placed in Swiss accounts and then not declared on US tax returns
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fifa-in...224541176.html

If the bribery had taken place in Zurich and placed into Swiss accounts they might have continued to get away with it. These arrests have come from a US investigation, not a Swiss one.

Unfortunately CONMEBOL is headquartered in Miami, and the bribes were paid to US accounts, thus putting it bang into US jurisdiction.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the US don't give 2 hoots about the bribery. What they care about is that the bribes were paid, placed in Swiss accounts and then not declared on US tax returns
I agree with you.
Probably as a side effect other information will emerge that will have direct consequences on other individuals and their decisions.

I suspect FIFA raised a criminal investigation request with the Swiss last year as an attempt to block the US investigation; the US are likely to be less "diplomatic" than the Swiss in respecting the boundaries of their investigation and have far more resources to apply.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the US don't give 2 hoots about the bribery. What they care about is that the bribes were paid, placed in Swiss accounts and then not declared on US tax returns
The US is pissed because over $100 million in bribes changed hands, and it still went to Qatar and Russia. And then, an investigative report was suppressed by FIFA. I doubt its about the game. The US can't play worth a damn,, and the low scoring games put them to sleep. Its all about the money.
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Re: Mr Joseph Sepp Bellend Blatter - FIFA corruption

Uncle Vladimir has now stepped into this fiasco.

Will we soon see bears in the air?

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The first sanctions have been introduced on FIFA

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A Swiss police spokesman said: “They can have it back when it’s all cleared up.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/...-2015052898655
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BREAKING: Swiss Police confirm that, when arrested, all seven FIFA officials threw themselves on the ground and pretended to be injured
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Re: Mr Joseph Sepp Bellend Blatter - FIFA corruption

If America was as interested in association football as we are in American football, we'd be a lot better at it. That doesn't necessarily mean we'd win the World Cup, but the American team would probably do as England. Also, you'd see the same type of s***storm and anger on social media whenever the American basketball team loses in the Olympics when the American team loses in the knockout round. Instead, you get a collective shrug.

That being said, considering that that football ISN'T as interesting to most Americans, I think the American team has done pretty damn good in World Cup competition, particularly the last one.
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If America was as interested in association football as we are in American football, we'd be a lot better at it. That doesn't necessarily mean we'd win the World Cup, but the American team would probably do as England. Also, you'd see the same type of s***storm and anger on social media whenever the American basketball team loses in the Olympics when the American team loses in the knockout round. Instead, you get a collective shrug.

That being said, considering that that football ISN'T as interesting to most Americans, I think the American team has done pretty damn good in World Cup competition, particularly the last one.
I don't think team USA would be that bad, besides they've done far better than England recently without much interest at home.

Meanwhile, the third world football condeferations are living up to their third world view of corruption. CAF and AFC have already said nothing should be changed and everything should carry on as before.

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If America was as interested in association football as we are in American football, we'd be a lot better at it. That doesn't necessarily mean we'd win the World Cup, but the American team would probably do as England. Also, you'd see the same type of s***storm and anger on social media whenever the American basketball team loses in the Olympics when the American team loses in the knockout round. Instead, you get a collective shrug.

That being said, considering that that football ISN'T as interesting to most Americans, I think the American team has done pretty damn good in World Cup competition, particularly the last one.

There are some really great American individuals who pour their heart into the game. And then there are thousands of parents who shuttle their kids to soccer practice, and invest heavily in the game. I love watching these players and the progress of their teams. Lots of heart. Just unfortunate they don't win International trophies at the pro level. The junior levels, especially the women's teams do great.

I found it hard to watch soccer in the beginning, especially when the game ends up at 1-1. Playing it, I thought there was way too much running around for no reason. I'm use to seeing games like basketball where the end results are like 117-115.

Anyway, the prosecutors simple saw scams taking place, and simply are simply doing their jobs to prosecute.
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Where's 3wishes when you need her?
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BREAKING: Swiss Police confirm that, when arrested, all seven FIFA officials threw themselves on the ground and pretended to be injured
Amid great controversy, the police officers involved were all given a yellow card and this being their second transgression in the season, they'll be barred from playing in the next arrest session. The Zurich police department declined to comment on how they are going to put together a replacement team.

A separate investigation is being led into the allegations that one of the officials bit an officer on the shoulder.
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