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...the organised crime is a BIG joke (there is more organised crime in CH than in Poland, Romania or Hungary... unfortunately I can't say the same thing about Bulgaria.
un-organised crime is just as bad
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Old 20.06.2011, 09:40
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Eastern Europe? Could you name some countries please? Because I live in one and it sounds that you don't know much about the place. "mafia guy"? There's no Mafia in Eastern Europe (there is in Italy) ...the organised crime is a BIG joke (there is more organised crime in CH than in Poland, Romania or Hungary... unfortunately I can't say the same thing about Bulgaria.
http://www.cisc.gc.ca/annual_reports...an_2003_e.html

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In Canada, EEOC consists of criminal groups and organizations comprised principally or entirely of individuals originating from Russia and other former Soviet Union (FSU) republics, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland as well as the Balkan region including: Bulgaria, Romania, the former Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro, Macedonia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Slovenia and Croatia) and Albania.
The Russian mafia, the Albanian mafia are estimated to be as big as the Italian mafia, Eastern Europe based Crime Organisations (EEOC) are massive. I may be different where you live but don't forget they don't usually operate, they are just based in their respective countries, the crimes are mostly commited elsewhere.
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Old 20.06.2011, 09:47
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Someone in another forum claimed to have one of these in Dubai; he claimed at full gas he could empty the fuel tank in 20 minutes!!!

hmmm odd, as the tyres only last 37 miles at top whack, which is a lot less the 20 minutes!!

oh and cost $38k a set
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Old 20.06.2011, 09:59
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Re: Bugatti Veyron thief gets stung for $512,000 import taxes

Not that I could care less about how people spend their cash, but how much fun can you really get from a Veyron? You can't just leave it parked on the streets in town when you go to the move theater, you almost need a bodyguard when shopping at Migros and I'm sure that you don't even get much of a thrill on the Deutsche Autobahn as all the beautiful scenery just becomes a backdrop blur.

I'll guess I'll just have to live with my precious manhood and "less powerful than a Veyron" silver steed.
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Old 20.06.2011, 10:04
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Not that I could care less about how people spend their cash, but how much fun can you really get from a Veyron? You can't just leave it parked on the streets in town when you go to the move theater, you almost need a bodyguard when shopping at Migros and I'm sure that you don't even get much of a thrill on the Deutsche Autobahn as all the beautiful scenery just becomes a backdrop blur.

I'll guess I'll just have to live with my precious manhood and "less powerful than a Veyron" silver steed.
I'm willing to bet there are plenty of 'side benefits' from owning a Veyron....
If anyone wants to loan me theirs, I can test that theory.
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Old 20.06.2011, 10:53
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Not that I could care less about how people spend their cash, but how much fun can you really get from a Veyron? You can't just leave it parked on the streets in town when you go to the move theater, you almost need a bodyguard when shopping at Migros and I'm sure that you don't even get much of a thrill on the Deutsche Autobahn as all the beautiful scenery just becomes a backdrop blur.

I'll guess I'll just have to live with my precious manhood and "less powerful than a Veyron" silver steed.
I have seen SLRs parked just on the street in Zurich. So why not a Veyron?

I would need to own very many millions befor I'd think about buying one and it is not exactly my dream car... but I'd sure get a thrill on the Autobahn. Scenery in northern Germany is btw less beautiful, but therefore flat and straight.
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Old 20.06.2011, 11:02
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Not that I could care less about how people spend their cash, but how much fun can you really get from a Veyron? You can't just leave it parked on the streets in town when you go to the move theater, you almost need a bodyguard when shopping at Migros and I'm sure that you don't even get much of a thrill on the Deutsche Autobahn as all the beautiful scenery just becomes a backdrop blur.

I'll guess I'll just have to live with my precious manhood and "less powerful than a Veyron" silver steed.
You get it home delivered... Ts ts ts some people are clueless
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Old 20.06.2011, 11:07
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You get it home delivered... Ts ts ts some people are clueless
No you don't. The whole point of a supercar is to show it off, not to drive it fast. If you want to drive fast, you'd get something suitable for a track, say a GT 3 RS. But to the ladies that one looks just like your dentists' 911...
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Old 20.06.2011, 11:15
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No you don't. The whole point of a supercar is to show it off, not to drive it fast. If you want to drive fast, you'd get something suitable for a track, say a GT 3 RS. But to the ladies that one looks just like your dentists' 911...
That said, I'd gladly use it for that purpose, if someone would care to loan me one!
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Eastern Europe? Could you name some countries please? Because I live in one and it sounds that you don't know much about the place. "mafia guy"? There's no Mafia in Eastern Europe (there is in Italy) ...the organised crime is a BIG joke (there is more organised crime in CH than in Poland, Romania or Hungary... unfortunately I can't say the same thing about Bulgaria.
Are you kidding me? There is Mafia in Romania! Yes, even cars Mafia. You should know better if you live in Romania.
How do you call those guys that do very bad things in Romania? ...
In Italy they have Cosa Nostra but Romania has it's own ''Mafia''....
I guess you are a very naive person.
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Re: Bugatti Veyron thief gets stung for $512,000 import taxes

Mafia, in it’s classical meaning is a powerful, structured organization with connections in the government, police and influence on public life. There is no such thing in Poland. We’ve caught up; these guys are now called “lobbyists” ;-) just like almost anywhere else.

Then of course, there is organized crime, like there is anywhere in the world. Wannabe mafias, one could say.

Anyhow, there is absolutely no way that a stolen car such as the Veyron could become legalized (and serviced!) in any country of the Schengen area, be it Poland, Lithuania or Hungary. Simply impossible.

Car theft is a problem, but the reasons are far more pragmatic – cars are stolen for parts, therefore the most popular brands and models are targeted – think VW, Toyotas, BMWs – not even the newest ones. Disassembled into thousand pieces, they are untraceable, hence the scale of the problem.

But a Bugatti? Please ... a car like this can either end up ever-parked in some collectors garage, or be smuggled into the very far east. An attention catcher like this wouldn’t make it far without a police patrol stopping it for control. The times when any policeman or official could be bought are far gone.
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Mafia, in it’s classical meaning is a powerful, structured organization with connections in the government, police and influence on public life. There is no such thing in Poland. We’ve caught up; these guys are now called “lobbyists” ;-) just like almost anywhere else.

Then of course, there is organized crime, like there is anywhere in the world. Wannabe mafias, one could say.

Anyhow, there is absolutely no way that a stolen car such as the Veyron could become legalized (and serviced!) in any country of the Schengen area, be it Poland, Lithuania or Hungary. Simply impossible.

Car theft is a problem, but the reasons are far more pragmatic – cars are stolen for parts, therefore the most popular brands and models are targeted – think VW, Toyotas, BMWs – not even the newest ones. Disassembled into thousand pieces, they are untraceable, hence the scale of the problem.

But a Bugatti? Please ... a car like this can either end up ever-parked in some collectors garage, or be smuggled into the very far east. An attention catcher like this wouldn’t make it far without a police patrol stopping it for control. The times when any policeman or official could be bought are far gone.
I knew a guy back home who had a business getting cars repaired - he bought damaged cars, drove them to Poland, got them repaired there and sold them again. That's one of the channels where those parts you mentioned end up in.

Now imagine somebody totalled a Veyron. Parts for it are incredibly expensive... but if you can buy a totalled one for next to nothing - as it makes financially no sense to build it up in any legal way... you can then "build it up" by using a stolen one and in the end you have a clean title - it's pretty much untraceable in the EU as there is no central register on car accidents or parts numbers.
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