Because they've seen how well unfettered immigration and bending over backwards works in the UK and Europe?

It is what it is...the majority of papers on this subject quote the same thing...the citizens of the country feel overburdened...

So what? Brits like to moan. They moan incessantly.

Should the British government frame their policies according to whatever this week's pointless whine of the British people is?

And what does any of this ridiculous conversation about a country neither of us live in have to do with Swiss cantonal voting policy anyway?

Foreign born population of the United Kingdom: 8.3%

Foreign born population of Switzerland: 21.9%

What was that about unfettered immigration?

Sounds fishy to me...

It's not just this week...and you know that. It's a "serious" situation in Britain and it's getting worse...

No, that's bad statistics.

The United Kingdom is bigger than Switzerland. If you look at the world as a whole, 0% are foreign born. If you look at a random square meter somewhere on the planet, the odds are that if somebody is standing there right now it's unlikely that he or she was also born there, let's call it 99.9% foreign born. Therefore, the smaller the unit you are looking at, the higher the percentage of foreign-born population will be. Therefore it would be more meaningful to compare the Swiss percentage with a similar area in the United Kingdom. If you look at the Souff-East for example you might actually find the figure is higher than 21.9%.

It has been a perpetual gripe of the indigenous Brits since the 1950s and beyond. If it wasn't the Irish, it was the West Indians. If it wasn't the West Indians, it was the East African Indians. If it wasn't the East African Indians, it was the Bangladeshis, the Pakistanis, the Poles, the Lithuanians... blah blah blah.

If it wasn't for the immigrants (who, in fact, make up a substantially smaller percentage of the population than immigrants to Switzerland), the United Kingdom would be a dead end nation with tax at 80%, a shrinking population, shops closing at five in the evening and no decent food.

It's a dump anyway, but pretty much anything that's good about it is a result of the contribution of hard working and motivated immigrants.

please stop acting like aq little baby! Is your dad bigger than my dad?

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Muslims have a reputation of ? Must Muslims are Arabs or Turks or Iranians or Albanians first. The other thing is a myth. Just as Italians are Italians first.

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You mean a kind of automatism ? Muslim = non-objective ?

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Changing the landscape ? This can be to the better, for instance in regard to restaurants. But what foreigners do in the UK is irrelevant in the Canton of Zurich.

Please mate quote the bloody sun if you must but not the mail!!

Maybe so, but Switzerland is absolutely packed full of foreigners - about seven million of them - and it still manages to function with some degree of success.

Many of these arguments revolve around extrapolation. Something was done in the past and it was okay or even good. It was done a bit more and it was even better. If we assume the world is a linear system, we can keep on doing whatever was good and the world will get better for ever. But nature isn't linear and just because things worked well in the past is no guarantee that you can do some more and it'll still be okay.

It's a bit like saying: Titanic got half way across the Atlantic without striking an iceberg so it can't really be true that it struck one on the second half.

To see whether or not immigration is changing things for the better or the worse you have to look at more complex things than whether the restaurants are nice or at what times shops close.

This may be or not as you say, but is hardly relevant for a vote about limited voting for foreigners in the Canton of Zurich. And the Daily Mail "illustrating" their report by a picture of some strictly veiled Muslim women is outing itself as simply a scandalmonger paper. Here below just some other Arab-origin foreigners in Britain

He'd probably confuse us all and vote CVP

It "used" to be that way with immigrants...but now host countries are feeling the crunch. It seems they're coming more to take than to give. There was a time when immigrants came to a country and wanted to really integrate and think of themselves as part of that country. Now it's all about handouts in many situations...it's not working anylonger and unfortunately or fortunately countries are starting to clamp down. They just can't take the load anymore. Especially with so many living off of the system..

Regardless, people of host countries are getting fed up with immigrants and footing the bill for them. Who cares about eating out at the restaurants? Where does that come in. Many of you forget that what worked before, doesn't necessarily work now. People have to start developing their own countries. Then those from the developed countries can start going over there...LOL. Actually many of the countries that the immigrants come from are not that easy to immigrate to. They allow few foreigners for immigration. I think Japan has it about right..

One of them looks like a drag-queen..but anyways. It doesn't matter where they come from whether Arab etc..IMHO, the British people are getting fed-up. And it's not just the Daily-Mail stating this. It's nothing wrong with acknowledging that and accepting that times change, countries are going broke and they can't take the load any longer.

The British people have always been fed up.

Pay attention at the back!

Well they're MORE fed up now...LOL