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Old 08.08.2011, 22:31
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Foreigners take care of you when you are in hospital. It otherwise would be "self-service" . Foreigners collect the waste. As otherwise it only would be done once per year. Foreigners sit at the cashiers desks in the shops. "Clamp down" sounds dramatic. What about simply saying that "North-of-the-Alps European countries" are placing limitations, are restricting immigration, NOT because the immigrants want to "take" something but because infrastructural problems.


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WHAT bills have the "host countries" to foot for them ?

No, people do NOT have to start developing their own countries, as they long ago have started to do so. The major problem of most of the "sending" countries is a too high population growth. So that this in many places has eaten up the relatively high development rates. Just to take the example of Egypt which in 1965 was at 17 mio people and now is at around 75, plus more than 10 mio. Egyptians in Europe.

You may however give a look to places in Switzerland, where not immigrants from "developing countries" or South European countries are the problem but "upper-class immigrants" whose immigrations has lead to an explosion of real-estate prices and to things like in Zug, where locals have to leave their town as everything is full of rich expats
I guess natives in their country do nothing according to your rant? So immigrants come to the developed countries and continue reproducing at alarming rates. Out producing the natives basically. Developed countries are starting to realize that they can't take on the world's people. They have to teach them to help themselves in their own lands...for the most part anyways.
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Doing a Google for the story about the girl being threatened in the retail store brings up an entry in the Daily Mail and this post. Where do you get your information from? Note that murder remains an extremely serious matter in the UK - honour killing or not.

The bit about Sharia Law taking over is a bit far fetched too. There are some "sharia courts" which operate under 100 year old arbitration legislation in much the same way as the Jewish Beth Din courts - which have been around for a long time. These are used to arbitrate in civil disputes plus cases like divorce. Reading around the subject, English or Scots law can still override the decisions of such courts. There are still issues regarding Sharia courts being biased against women for example - which will have to be ironed out over time I guess. They certainly aren't allowed to sentence people to being stoned to death or having their hands chopped off!

As an Englishman I am rather proud of the fact that my native country embraces such a mix of races, cultures and beliefs and that discrimination is considered to be unacceptable. The place might be going down the toilet but that has little to do with immigration in my opinion.

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That's easy for you to say, sitting up in Switzerland. What is Sharia law doing in Britain anyways regardless of how much or how little? This is one reason why the Brits are getting pissed...they feel the immigrants have more rights than they do. Go back and live in Britain for a few years and then tell me what you think...

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as an old warmongering colonial power (as e.g. UK), you can not just run around the world doing your war-mongering and expect no impact / re-action...

Same in the modern world...everything is a balance (e.g. Switzerland has no issues hosting billions of dollars from African and Middle east dictators, but don't want the people escaping the dictators...mmm...yes)

if there are rich countries there must be poor countries...i.e. the first world is rich of the cost of the 3rd world countries being poor, this means that people from the poorer countries are seeking a better situation, so we have to accept this, like it or not, very simple...even for you to understand...welcome to capitalism and SUCK IT UP!!!
It's not that simple but nice try...

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Old 08.08.2011, 22:39
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What is Sharia law doing in Britain anyways regardless of how much or how little?
Because the United Kingdom is not a fascist state. As Nickatbasel observed, there have been Jewish courts dealing with domestic affairs for decades. Sharia courts are permitted under the same legislation. Kosher and Halal slaughter are also permitted for the same reason.

Anyway, you still haven't explained what any of your sub-daily-mail drivel about the United Kingdom has to do with proposals to allow foreigners to vote on cantonal affairs in Zurich.
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Old 08.08.2011, 22:46
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Because the United Kingdom is not a fascist state. As Nickatbasel observed, there have been Jewish courts dealing with domestic affairs for decades. Sharia courts are permitted under the same legislation. Kosher and Halal slaughter are also permitted for the same reason.

Anyway, you still haven't explained what any of your sub-daily-mail drivel about the United Kingdom has to do with proposals to allow foreigners to vote on cantonal affairs in Zurich.
Actually, it has little to do with it. It was written to express a point in relation to the OP's thread. If it bothers you don't respond...I shouldn't have to explain the obvious to you.
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Old 08.08.2011, 22:53
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Actually, it has little to do with it. It was written to express a point in relation to the OP's thread.
No it wasn't. Your ridiculous polemic has nothing whatsoever to do with the initial post in this thread. I have eyes in my head, you know.

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As long as you post lies and nonsense you dredged up from the depths of the Daily Mail's website, I shall respond.

One can't let your type go unanswered.

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Actually, it has little to do with it. It was written to express a point in relation to the OP's thread. If it bothers you don't respond...I shouldn't have to explain the obvious to you.
I tink you may have hit a nerve DB
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actually, the rise of fascist/nationalist parties was one thing i have been predicting as a result of the economic crisis. i think we will start to see this over the next few years. combined with new surveillance technology and very scary 'anti-terrorism' laws, a fascist government in the UK could be a very scary thing indeed.
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No it wasn't. Your ridiculous polemic has nothing whatsoever to do with the initial post in this thread. I have eyes in my head, you know.



As long as you post lies and nonsense you dredged up from the depths of the Daily Mail's website, I shall respond.

One can't let your type go unanswered.

The daily mail is not writing lies and you know it. Get out of your shell in Switzerland and go there and live for a while then you will see for yourself. And for the likes of you, I think your drunk at this moment or why would you continue writing such foolishness?...

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Yes...your nerve. Fight your own battles.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...;videoMetaInfo ...The narrator is a bit comical in this video but right on point...
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Old 08.08.2011, 23:11
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The daily mail is not writing lies and you know it. Get out of your shell in Switzerland and go there and live for a while then you will see for yourself. And for the likes of you, I think your drunk at this moment or why would you continue writing such foolishness?...
I lived for three quarters of my life in England. Have you even visited the country?

I was wondering when you'd revert to the silly accusations, by the way. You're as reliable as Old Faithful, if rather less impressive in your ejaculations.
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I lived for three quarters of my life in England. Have you even visited the country?

I was wondering when you'd revert to the silly accusations, by the way. You're as reliable as Old Faithful, if rather less impressive in your ejaculations.
You're drunk...you're starting to ramble now. Sober up then write again. Go to bed...
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You're drunk...you're starting to ramble now. Sober up then write again. Go to bed...
Is that really the best you can do?

The Swiss will give a passport to anyone these days, apparently...

Anyway, I asked if you'd ever visited England. Are you going to answer the question, or are you just going to spend the next six pages making silly accusations about my sobriety?
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Is that really the best you can do?

The Swiss will give a passport to anyone these days, apparently...

Anyway, I asked if you'd ever visited England. Are you going to answer the question, or are you just going to spend the next six pages making silly accusations about my sobriety?
Of course, I've visited England. What does that have to do with the truth about their situation? Like I said, go to bed and wake up when you're sober. You need to work on your drinking problem. Plus you're taking the thread OT. It's not about me, even though I see you are captivated by me.
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Of course, I've visited England.
There, that wasn't difficult, was it?

By the way, every time you accuse me of being drunk, you just make yourself look a bigger fool.

Now, shall we return to the matter in hand, which is the proposal to allow foreigners to participate in certain local elections in the canton of Zurich?
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There, that wasn't difficult, was it?

By the way, every time you accuse me of being drunk, you just make yourself look a bigger fool.

Now, shall we return to the matter in hand, which is the proposal to allow foreigners to participate in certain local elections in the canton of Zurich?
Glad you took the hint...carry on
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Not DB mate. It's normally me who can rant on here whilst drunk but alas not tonight. You have been going on all day about the Uk and all you can do is quote the Daily Mail. If you are really such an expert on the UK, surely you would have worked it out by now that everything that paper says needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. However, as you have decided that DB is a bit the worst for drink . You will also have discovered that not all Brits are Muslims!
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Not DB mate. It's normally me who can rant on here whilst drunk but alas not tonight. You have been going on all day about the Uk and all you can do is quote the Daily Mail. If you are really such an expert on the UK, surely you would have worked it out by now that everything that paper says needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. However, as you have decided that DB is a bit the worst for drink . You will also have discovered that not all Brits are Muslims!
Check the link from my earlier post on this page. It's no secret about the problems that Britain is having. You don't have to be an expert on Britain to see that. And it's absolutely amazing that your eyes could be so closed to see that. Or don't want to accept that it is an issue? I think the Daily Mail is fine. They show proof and you can find the same information in quite a few places. It's not like I made this up or something. As the saying goes "don't hate the messenger, hate the message."
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Check the link from my earlier post on this page. It's no secret about the problems that Britain is having. You don't have to be an expert on Britain to see that. And it's absolutely amazing that your eyes could be so closed to see that. Or don't want to accept that it is an issue? I think the Daily Mail is fine. They show proof and you can find the same information in quite a few places. It's not like I made this up or something. As the saying goes "don't hate the messenger, hate the message."
Are you still banging on about that? You've been whining about Britain since the first page of the thread, which, incidentally, is about the proposal to grant voting rights to foreigners in certain elections in Zurich.

Please do try to keep on topic, dear.
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Check the link from my earlier post on this page. It's no secret about the problems that Britain is having. You don't have to be an expert on Britain to see that. And it's absolutely amazing that your eyes could be so closed to see that. Or don't want to accept that it is an issue? I think the Daily Mail is fine. They show proof and you can find the same information in quite a few places. It's not like I made this up or something. As the saying goes "don't hate the messenger, hate the message."
OK. Britain allows certain people to vote now lwt's talk about Switzerland. Now how did you become a citizen and gain this great advantage? Did you by any chance marry a Swiss guy?
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Are you still banging on about that? You've been whining about Britain since the first page of the thread, which, incidentally, is about the proposal to grant voting rights to foreigners in certain elections in Zurich.

Please do try to keep on topic, dear.
And you've been trying to deny there's a problem in Britain along with many other industrialized nations. I guess your friend Keith will pop up next...LOL. Can't stand on your own, no doubt. And no, Switzerland should not grant voting rights to foreigners and yes I can vote about it, unlike you who can't...I give you time to contact your "partner in crime"...to gather your strength.
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And you've been trying to deny there's a problem in Britain along with many other industrialized nations. I guess your friend Keith will pop up next...LOL. Can't stand on your own, no doubt. And no, Switzerland should not grant voting rights to foreigners and yes I can vote about it, unlike you who can't...I give you time to contact your "partner in crime"...to gather your strength.
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