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As most people on here, I generally find the SVP reprehensible, but surely we should use as stark images as possible to discourage people from taking drugs.

I remember seeing the images of Leah Betts when I was at school, and after seeing that, i'd never even think of taking drugs. Let AW set a good example in death, that she failed to do in life and her life isn't totally wasted.
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Re: Fury at 'tasteless' Amy Winehouse poster

I just found this - related newspaper article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed--fumes.html

As for that poster campaign, how very insensitive towards the relatives & friends of AW. 'Tis indeed worrying that political parties like this can generate such a following anywhere, let alone here, where I was led to believe the general population are reasonably well educated.
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Sorry, but ... who is Amy Winehouse ?
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Old 07.08.2011, 11:38
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Re: Fury at 'tasteless' Amy Winehouse poster

I guess the SVP was unable to find any Swiss junkies...oops...there aren't any! So the SVP has to pick on foreigners...again. Typical.
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I guess the SVP was unable to find any Swiss junkies...oops...there aren't any! So the SVP has to pick on foreigners...again. Typical.
I don't think they picked her because she is/was a foreigner, on the contrary. Many Swiss people I know relate to American music stars.
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Re: Fury at 'tasteless' Amy Winehouse poster

Perhaps it would be more effective if Amy winehouse was a drug addict in a country that decriminalised drugs. As it stands the UK has quite strict drug laws....maybe if it was legal this wouldn't have happened.
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what is the first thing you remember when you think of Kurt Cobain? I know for me, it is not his music...
Yet for me, it is. I have most of his work.

Now regarding this poster, other than the fact that I don't agree with the message, I do think the timing could have been better, but I agree that it drives home the point quite well.

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Many Swiss people I know relate to American music stars.
Good thing Amy Winehouse was an English star then.

Seriously though the SVP poster is just as immature as the article in the Sun. Perhaps the two organisations could get together and create an IQ black hole!
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Re: Fury at 'tasteless' Amy Winehouse poster

If they had piked a homeless drunk, junkie,bum with a filthy beard and sally anne clothes on his back which just got beaten to death on "lang strasse". None of you would give a shit.But hier amy(Whats her name again) deserves some respect !!!!Yep she was a great rolle model to my grand daughter`s
I have no sympathy for those big stars , like elvis , mamas and papas ,amy(Whats her name again)Etc Etc

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I just found this - related newspaper article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed--fumes.html
You've got to love the Daily Mail...

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Brian Traynor, the POA’s health and safety chairman, said that while serving at Walton Jail in Liverpool he felt giddy and that night had to lie down while gardening.
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Re: Fury at 'tasteless' Amy Winehouse poster

I personally don't see why there has to be such outrage over this. Certainly the "fury" from the Sun newspaper is likely to be an exaggeration but it's not exactly The Times is it. Any rage that could come out of it would more than likely be from her fans who a lot of them, (but of course not every fan) would have a more tolerant view of recreational drugs. I don't have that view, wouldn't have the money for it even if I did . So I think most parents and responsible people wouldn't mind more anti-drug slogans.

The picture itself is quite tasteless but she is in a different place now, and it is just a picture. After all that famous picture of Albert Einstein with his tongue hanging out, I'm sure he never thought it's the best photograph in the world of him but what can you do.
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Interesting isn't it? How we pick and choose which famous drug-addicted stars to batter and bruise via media after they are dead, or the many that are still alive for that matter.. don't remember this scumbag attitude ever being thrown so vigorously at the many famous dead drug addicted/alcoholic actors, sport stars, musicians, writers who have died in the past
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If they had piked a homeless drunk, junkie,bum with a filthy beard and sally anne clothes on his back which just got beaten to death on "lang strasse". None of you would give a shit.But hier amy(Whats her name again) deserves some respect !!!!Yep she was a great rolle model to my grand daughter`s
I have no sympathy for those big stars , like elvis , mamas and papas ,amy(Whats her name again)Etc Etc
Oh but I miss Elvis! Along with Jerry Garcia, Lowell George and all the others.
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Re: Fury at 'tasteless' Amy Winehouse poster

Isn't the main line of thinking at the moment for Amy's death is it's the alcohol wot dunnit?

Even if it was prohibited substances, most of the factors that would lead to an overdose (contaminants, unpredictable levels of purity, difficulty seeking help for abuse) are related to the prohibition, not the substances themselves...
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Re: Fury at 'tasteless' Amy Winehouse poster

I actually seriously doubt that an image of a poor drug/booze addict will actually deter anyone in young generation. They know images, from their own environment. Thinking they do not is probably even more naieve than assuming people listen to music for the music, heheh.

It takes one to work with youngins to know that if anything, seamingly deterring pics like that will only feed the heroism. More absurd and unacceptable, more attractive. Human minds in teens are wired differently. We are projecting our reasoning on people who play dare devil in order to find some kind of stimuli. Any kind. Some square minds won't change this, nor their attempts to influence smart, independent and bored youths. It's a joke and shortcut, black and white propaganda, actually just using this antidrug theme to point fingers abroad.

Abuse comes from boredom and selfishness. Seeing images won't do squat for this. Some kids I am sure will even admire the guts she had to do this. Unfortunately. Talking about this with somebody they respect might have some effect, but not plastering very negative stuff all over. Hope it won't materialized into paper edition.
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I actually seriously doubt that an image of a poor drug addict will actually deter anyone in young generation. That's probably even more naieve than assuming people listen to music for the music, heheh.
Errr when I mentioned naive, I thought it was pretty obvious that I meant why do people remember some artists, thanks for taking my words totally out of context...
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Isn't the main line of thinking at the moment for Amy's death is it's the alcohol wot dunnit?

Even if it was prohibited substances, most of the factors that would lead to an overdose (contaminants, unpredictable levels of purity, difficulty seeking help for abuse) are related to the prohibition, not the substances themselves...
And as we know- the young Valaisans are mostly tea-total
and don't drink and drive either. I haven't got the statistics here, but I'd hazard a guess that in Valais alcohol abuse and drink driving and speed (as in lots of km per hour) cause a lot more deaths than drugs (not that I approve of drugs).
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Errr when I mentioned naive, I thought it was pretty obvious that I meant why do people remember some artists, thanks for taking my words totally out of context...
Naw, don't take it personally, words get taken as readers want to take them, otherwise you would have to attach a manual of disclaimers, hahah.

Some people of course did listen to AW for all the funky noise and celebrity crap showbiz sticks to a popular person, and will probably remember her as a symbol of such, but I do think quite a few people (and not only her die hard fans and family) give her credit for music and creativity, not just boozy craziness, etc etc. I think people will remember what they want. SVP trying to reduce an artist who was obviously hurting inside to an image of pointless sick existence, gets on my nerves. One can easily achieve the same goal, without the ill timing, or even without the visuals, or even using AW as a "face of this campaign" to borrow a phrase from the world of fashion and cosmetics. SVP will obviously try to do what people here let them get away with. Again, nothing to do with drugs and youth, me thinks.
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It's just a bunch of young polit hooligans.
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It's just a bunch of young polit hooligans.
Wannabe partizans.

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