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Old 10.08.2011, 17:06
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Re: Riots in Switzerland! Is it possible?

Lets not get too paranoid, anyone for a cookie?
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Old 10.08.2011, 17:23
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Re: Riots in Switzerland! Is it possible?

Plus - you are, as I've stated before either a Troll, or 12 or both.

I refer to an earlier post on another of your dumb threads.

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Old 10.08.2011, 22:38
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Almost everyone knows about what happening in London and other big cities in UK. My opinion, police in UK don’t do their job properly or someone does not let police to do their job. (Possibly stupid laws in England or stupid Euro-tolerance).

Unbelievable, but police decided to employ rubber bullets after3 days (!) of lootings, burnings and vandalism. Police do nothing to protecttheir citizens. I cannot imagine it happen in USA (for instance). Stupid tanagers are throwing stones to police officers, burning down their cars and police stations and police don’t shot idiots back. What is it? This is not police,this is kindergarten!

Do you think it can happen in Switzerland (especially in the German part)?
A) "riots" have happened, not least in Bern some 3 years ago at the time of the WEF Davos and have happened also in Zurich on 1st May in recent years ..... sure not anywhere close to what you now had to see happening in England
B) what I see on both internet and TV made it obvious to me that British police simply lacks manpower, but possibly also equipment
C) police not shooting back blindly are simply showing common sense. And do not forget that the police force has to respect laws, rioters do NOT.

I may be wrong but feel to be right, that Mr Cameron since arriving in power, showed pleasure when cutting back social welfare, showed a stance to be always right, quite generally showed some arrogance. This at least was what could be shown on TV. The picture behind the scenes may be different. But THIS is not mine but HIS problem !

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A) a bit more money now ?
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/wirtscha...story/11603258

B) But Dr Bashar al-Assad is not as arrogant as Dr Cameron who will be first to quit ??

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Much more likely to happen in France- where a large North African population has been 'disaffected' for a very long time- and even more so under Sarko's Government. Some Cities in France are ripe for explosion- and the tension with the police is very great.

One of my favourite ever films 'La Haine' a low budget black and white film from about 20 years ago - describes this so well.

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La Haine (French pronunciation: [la ʔɛn], 'hatred') is a 1995 French black-and-white film written, co-edited, and directed by Mathieu Kassovitz. It is commonly released under its French title in the English-speaking world, although its American VHS release was entitled Hate. It is about three teenage friends and their struggle to live in the banlieues of Paris. The title derives from a line spoken by one of them, Hubert: "La haine attire la haine!", "hatred breeds hatred."
A) Most of the "North African population" in France not only voted for Mr Sarkozy but still is supporting the camp of the State President
B) In the riots of the past, it was a wide "coalition" of people in the Satellite-Cites of "native-French" and Arab and Black-African descent, so indeed a "rainbow-coalition"

And do not forget that to compare France and Britain is extremely difficult as there are so many heavily different aspects. Some riots do not close the gap
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Re: Riots in Switzerland! Is it possible?

So far so good in the UK tonight.All seems quiet. Please let it stay that way!
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And how do the Swiss deal with rioters?
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Quite recently, ZH police searched for some rioters of 1st May 2010 via the internet. At least half of the searched culprits either were located or reported themselves.

What's the point ? No, it is not to have them sentenced to years of prison, The point is that they get questioned intensively. That they are taught that they are responsible for their actions. I am absolutely AGAINST charging them with the costs of the police actions as that would go too far.

Some people here reacted in a rather upset way "they should ....." "we ought ..." etc, which is rubbish. What counts is that they are located, that they are confronted, and that they are not guarded by anonymity !
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Search for "AJZ Zrich" on google/google pic.

"Zri brnnt"
reminds me of two uncles calling, and my father in tears of laughters ! They had offered us to retreat to their places in case of things getting too dangerous. My father told them that I commuted between southwest of Zch and the airport daily and had no problem
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Quite recently, ZH police searched for some rioters of 1st May 2010 via the internet. At least half of the searched culprits either were located or reported themselves.

What's the point ? No, it is not to have them sentenced to years of prison, The point is that they get questioned intensively. That they are taught that they are responsible for their actions. I am absolutely AGAINST charging them with the costs of the police actions as that would go too far.

Some people here reacted in a rather upset way "they should ....." "we ought ..." etc, which is rubbish. What counts is that they are located, that they are confronted, and that they are not guarded by anonymity !
I believe you have cracked it once they admit it. i too don't believe in looking for total vengence but if they can stand up and say sorry and pay back society then so be it Amen!
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Old 10.08.2011, 23:16
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Huh. As compared to Switzerland where the first police reaction to the Norway massacre was, "if it would happen here, we would clearly be ten minutes sooner responding".
an arrogant reaction in fact, but factually possibly right. And the modest 10 minutes might have saved 30 or 40 people. But in defence of the Norwegian police it is to be said that they were completely taken by surprise. I doubt that they ever even faced some "riots" of the WEF dimension, not to speak of what happened there.
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I have been to many a football match in the UK. (OK not in the 70's) I believe the UK police are very good as defusing situations which in other countries, Switzerland included, FCZ v FCB getting totally out of hand and ending up in the Hauptbahnof looking like a war zone!
Sure, but were you surprised ? Police simply were overrolled by the extent of what resulted

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They call the German army to protect them...happens every G7, G8 and G20
> How many G7 or G8 or G20 took place in Switzerland ?
> Ever realized how often the crime squads of Zurich and Basel are called in by authorities in Baden-Wrttemberg ? No ? Well, Switzerland and Germany are co-operating very much in such things. And this means that there can be a joint security structure between Stuttgart/Mnchen and Lugano.

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Re: Riots in Switzerland! Is it possible?

Are you bored by any chance tonight?
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Re: Riots in Switzerland! Is it possible?

It has begun

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Re: Riots in Switzerland! Is it possible?

Aww, I came on here especially to post that Whalley Range video, (because this was such a stupid thread) only to find you beat me to it. ;p
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UK police oficers are unarmed
It's an amazing thing that Great Britain still has an unarmed Police force.

It's an even more amazing thing that an unarmed police force manages to shoot so many people.
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Or, perhaps, Americans might be, in general, more law-abiding than the savage inhabitants of England?
Exactly! That's why they have so many guns and shoot so many more people! It's not even illegal over there. That's what we need; more guns and the right to shoot people. Then, we wouldn't have all this criminal behaviour.

Pehaps this will be know as the 'European Spring' in the Arab world...
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Much more likely to happen in France- where a large North African population has been 'disaffected' for a very long time- and even more so under Sarko's Government. Some Cities in France are ripe for explosion- and the tension with the police is very great.

One of my favourite ever films 'La Haine' a low budget black and white film from about 20 years ago - describes this so well.
Duh - have you actually seen the film, or just read the Wiki article? Either you're thick as f*&% or deliberatly being obtuse.

I saw it years ago when it came out, and I remember that only one of the three guys was of North African origin and he was the cool, chilled out, relaxed one trying to provide for his family. The mad, nutty one with the gun was white (played by a young Vincent Cassel).

The reason it's much more likely to happen in France is because of the native French culture of getting out on the streets and doing something - Farmers, lorry drivers, the Paris commune in 67 - it goes back to the Revolution. North African populations are merely a footnote in this great tradition - and la haine is about a lot more than that.
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PLUS is right. In CH this guy would be sooo toast!
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Show me something similar for example in Midwestof USA like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa or many other states. Police there are extremely professional.
Sorry I'm a bit late 'cause I'm in the NE Midwest, where the Internet is slow.

Does Detroit count too?
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Sorry I'm a bit late 'cause I'm in the NE Midwest, where the Internet is slow.

Does Detroit count too?
He was so happy to see "relatively uncorrupt" police that it was easy to not find fault with the way things sometimes work here in the USA.

OTOH, based on the OP's monkey comments, maybe any police officer shooting at a certain demographic are to be lauded.

Don't quite understand the need for racial epithets...
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