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Re: Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration]

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Ummm, in the other national languages, there is no S, nor, V, nor P.

Where do you make up this nonsense?

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Old 14.02.2014, 08:07
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Re: Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration]

Have you ever worked in agriculture? The last thing any farmer wants is some incompetent idiots destroying his crops.
A tax on foreigners to help fund the Swiss military would be a credible option.
Or schools fees for foreign children attending Swiss public schools.
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Old 14.02.2014, 08:15
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Have you ever worked in agriculture? The last thing any farmer wants is some incompetent idiots destroying his crops.
A tax on foreigners to help fund the Swiss military would be a credible option.
Or schools fees for foreign children attending Swiss public schools.
This idea was suggested by SVP 2 or 3 years ago: swiss who can't to the military have to pay a tax....so they suggested why not also foreigners!
I don't find it a good idea. Maybe make them pay because they can't use the civil right of voting
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Old 14.02.2014, 08:23
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This idea was suggested by SVP 2 or 3 years ago: swiss who can't to the military have to pay a tax....so they suggested why not also foreigners!
I don't find it a good idea. Maybe make them pay because they can't use the civil right of voting
Scratches head, I wonder who said "“No Taxation Without Representation"...
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Re: Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration]

There's quite a good article on this in the NZZ

http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/schweiz/le...ama-1.18243036
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Old 14.02.2014, 12:54
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Re: Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration]

Another suggestion I read today in the Zuger Zeitung: Increase the working week to 48 hours, leading to less need to import foreign workers.
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Re: Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration]

I finally figured out the Swiss quota vote thanks to this two-part blog post on Bicontinental Dachshund: part one is about the basic context and part two is about the vote itself.

Enjoy!
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Scratches head, I wonder who said "“No "Militairpfichtersatzsteuer" Taxation Without Representation"...
Here you go
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Have you ever worked in agriculture? The last thing any farmer wants is some incompetent idiots destroying his crops.
A tax on foreigners to help fund the Swiss military would be a credible option.
Or schools fees for foreign children attending Swiss public schools.


Taxing people more because they are foreigners is discrimination. The money collected with the taxes would not even cover the (righteous) sanctions coming from the rest of the world.
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I finally figured out the Swiss quota vote thanks to this two-part blog post on Bicontinental Dachshund: part one is about the basic context and part two is about the vote itself.
Sanctimonious journalism not even the Dachshund believes in.

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Taxing people more because they are foreigners is discrimination.
You're right, it's not what this initiative is about, there is always a next one to fix that...
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Old 14.02.2014, 17:46
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Taxing people more because they are foreigners is discrimination.
So is taxing them LESS, which is currently the case!

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Old 14.02.2014, 18:06
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So is taxing them LESS, which is currently the case!

Tom
My tax declaration software seems to be the same as everybody else, or did I miss something :roll eyes:

can you tell me why I am paying less taxes as a foreigners...?
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Old 14.02.2014, 18:41
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Re: Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration]

I had a brief chat with Swiss workmates at the coffee-room this morning. We were talking about the initiative and they were laughing admitting that the result was a complete faux-pas according to the intelligent and educated people. They also told me not to worry much about the whole thing (as if I were worried ) as it was going to take ages for negotiations and renegotiaitons with EU in which case probably there would have been another referendum to rig the results if the things were to go south. Now I like this sense of humour
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I had a brief chat with Swiss workmates at the coffee-room this morning. We were talking about the initiative and they were laughing admitting that the result was a complete faux-pas according to the intelligent and educated people. They also told me not to worry much about the whole thing (as if I were worried ) as it was going to take ages for negotiations and renegotiaitons with EU in which case probably there would have been another referendum to rig the results if the things were to go south. Now I like this sense of humour

Well, your colleagues were not Hinterwäldler then. :-)
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Well, your colleagues were not Hinterwäldler then. :-)
Oh c'mon, you also get to know nice uneducated and not so intelligent Hinterwäldler that try to think for themselves. Now that's an astronomic difference.
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Well, your colleagues were not Hinterwäldler then. :-)
Everytime I get involved in political debate, I always try to drink from the same cup. You never know

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Old 14.02.2014, 19:11
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Oh c'mon, you also get to know nice uneducated and not so intelligent Hinterwäldler that try to think for themselves. Now that's an astronomic difference.
Hinterwäldler rolls off the tongue nearly as well as Dachschaden.
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Hinterwäldler rolls off the tongue nearly as well as Dachschaden.
They probably do so in Germany but those expressions are not used in Switzerland. But you are excused for not knowing that and other things you are writing about since you don't live here.
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Re: Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration]

This is the basic Swiss thinking. They don't want to throw the foreigners out that are here, they just want to limit how many can enter in the future. The initiative is not tied to any numbers so what, if any, limits negotiated in the future is anybody's guess.

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