..... I will have nightmares for this ahahha.

Actually, for us, should we do that, China would be a better choice than Italy.

Tom

You forgot pizza — an allegedly Italian dish made by an Indian in Germany and delivered to nice Swiss people

It seems to be a problem all over so is there a problem that needs to be addressed or are all the Civilized prosperous countries of the world supposed to just bend over and have all the illegal immigrants and economic refugees in the world over run the planet??

It can be done quite easily..

So the minute someone pushes back they are what?? I'm afraid not.

This politically correct world doesn't allow anyone to say anything that needs to be said anymore and it's all going to shit.

I don't agree or disagree with the right wing but since the Politicians don't have the "cojones" to do what needs to be done for fear of losing an election then it goes to the extremists.

Since there is a problem then it needs to be addressed because i have been personally affected by the low wage unqualified work without standards say nothing do nothing to upset the Boss type people and quite frankly there needs to be some Standards upheld.

Switzerland for example is qhat it is for the hard work and resourcefulness of the people here... Why should they have their Country diluted or ruined by people only here for the money??
Nay i say...

We can turn the whole world into a 4th world planet run by Corporations looking for cheap labor and people they can exploit.. It's rampant and Globalization has brought it on. THEY LIED!!!!

I am so evil, I felt such Schadenfreude, now I just feel guilty for not voting. It is the responsibility of all Swiss to vote.


Cannut, yes I think that this will undoubtedly spread, but the Swiss economy will suffer more than the German. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...html?ir=Comedy


It's a beautiful day here in SF. I will go to Chinatown. Massive Chinese investment here.

Did you really read all comments from me with image included?

Dear Hoppy, Now I need to disclose details of my present to prove originality As this thread is getting more ridiculous with all the responses, it warranted explicit answer from me as well - hell why not?

http://www.switzerwatch.com/english-...silverish.html

All Swatch watches including the watch Silverish are made in Switzerland and have the finest Swiss technology and a quartz mechanism to give the maximum precision, they also have a resistance to water to at least 30 meters.

Exactly what i wa talking about... Go to the cheap labor and screw the Citizens of the Country where it all started once it's off the ground..

I'm from the Detroit area... does that mean anything to anyone.???

How about upholding your own moral and intellectual standards? Or, to ride well, shoot straight, and speak the truth…? Oh but the latter comes from uncivilized Persia…

fyi, much of the Detroit-area manufacturing first went to Canada, long before it went to Mexico or Asia.

- delusional much?

my greed?
my ego?
want to see Switzerland fail?

anyone?

There are more than a few Swiss who, when it comes to immigrants, would prefer to keep their coke dealer in Switzerland and kick us out instead. There's no doubt that the coke dealers around my way are enterprising, motivated, speak fluent French coming from the Cote d'Ivoire and elsewhere.

The referendum was simple do you like immigration ot not? There were no qualifications. If not then we're all in the firing line and it's for others to decide what value we bring to Switzerland.

I have to admit that I used to walk past the dealers in Jonction where I live thinking that one day the Swiss will get fed up with all this. It didn't occur to me that it's us they're fed up with (you work in IT as well I see!). I wish you all the best.

I don't know what Detroit has anything to do with Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration]. At the same time I should hope that Switzerland we live in now won't turn into Detroit as we know it from news

Schoggi overdose

Enough.

What are the projections here:

a mindless middle class man will be able to decide whether I get a B permit or a C permit next time I have to renew my permit (now B permit, I will have been on B permit for 5 years next year), if I do not get it all due to quotas or what?

My daughter is 3 years old. Do I have any chance of giving her any stability or everything is going to be uncertain every time we need to take a new permit?

And Furthermore, will she have the same issues. And if yes, until when?

Your opinion on the matter, I do not care what you voted.

Yes you from windsor and you working for Chrysler (Fiat)

I meant "does not need you" I do not have enough post to edit my post.

Apparently you are not one of the selfish ones. I agree that now immigrants to Switzerland will have to prove their worth more instead. Switzerland needs people who are really good not because they believe they are really good. OK I am done now I wanted to correct my earlier post. Good Bye

That's quite a striking point of view and I wonder if I know anyone who would really subscribe to it.

Have you actually talked to Swiss people who state this is how they feel: that they prefer criminal immigrants who speak their language to lawfully-employed immigrants who don't?

Actually, that's not what it said. I posted a link to the actual text of the initiative about 60 pages back; here it is again:
http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/pore/vi/vis413t.html

Please take the time to have a look so you can be clear on what actually happened.

If we really must boil it down to a single sentence, the question was not "do you like immigration or not?" It was not even "do you prefer more immigration or less?" The question was "do you think immigration levels should be set by Berne or Brussels?"

Again: there's been no vote on whether immigration levels should be higher or lower, increasing or decreasing, tied to language skills or not. That's all pure speculation.

The only vote was that there should be some sort of upper limits; that said limits should be set independently by Switzerland, not by international treaties; and that employers' requests, "capacity to integrate", and independent financial means should be criteria for distributing permits within those limits.

Reading between the lines, that last bit means we're talking about the same sort of treatment already given to non-EU immigrants. Funny, I didn't hear all this yowling that those policies were unfair and xenophobic... must have missed that thread, I guess

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Anyone who is already here can stay (unless they are a criminal.) THIS WILL NOT CHANGE. The Swiss won't let it. I know. My SVP connections are superb.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/fre/nouvelle...l?cid=37970966

Well... we have been isolated...

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