greenmount | 10.12.2017 12:42 | Re: Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration] Quote:
Originally Posted by suissa
(Post 2884104)
I mean, it is a tricky point and guess there are lot of different opinions, very respectabe all: I personally don't like the situation in London (and I mention this one place only because I saw it first hand! not wishing to diminish a place or other...). At that time, believe not much changed, people working in hospitality and gastro are in many cases people offered such low salaries that income depends a lot on the tips. The effect is that you have a lot of people unemployed and getting benefits while 'fresh' people comes in to work at yet lower salary. Not good, really, those conditions would be accepted by nobody if it wasn't because they're there to learn English for a few months or years. | Yes, but look at this matter from a different angle - how affordable some services or products have, thus, become? Travelling (not only for business but the so-called city breaks, weekend breaks you name it), also dining out, eating out day in and day out, renovating buildings, apartments etc, delegating our house chores to other people so we can enjoy more other things or have time for self-development......would not be possible at this scale if it weren't for cheap(er) labour. I'm afraid it is a necessary "evil" if we want a certain level for other things. Or, we should all downsize, live more self-dependantly or more sustainable. My guess is that people won't be that happy either. It goes against every marketing campaign, every advertisement and media product, it simply goes against the times.
The transition to (self)sustainable models will probably happen one day, but it won't be easy.
Now, how many times did I read here tips and tricks on shopping abroad, eating out abroad etc. It shows we all want the better deal without thinking much of the effects our economic decision will have. When it comes to discussions about immigration we are pointing out only a part of the problem, and not even the cause, at that. |