Good question from a journalist to Doris Leuthard: given that the population refuses the mass-immigration ....does it still make sense to invest in the train infrastructure if less people will come in this country?

i had to google "hillbilly"

You dont make an agreement, break it and then say that the other party would act like a child. Agreements are made to be respected and honored....

What's good for Basel has nothing to do with what is good for Ticino.

Tom

and i had to google mudblood too....

We voted no on that as well.

Tom

The problem is that if they don't, they might cause major problems for the almost 2 million EU citizens who live in Switzerland now. So yes, they will renegotiate. Otherwise the economy here will undoubtedly shrink and the EU citizens here will be the first who'll feel the effects of that.

Very much so. The EU has already warned Switzerland that it can't pick and choose. Switzerland must accept that it's a small country with little to offer - that 50% of it's market is the EU. If I were running Brussels I'd blockade the border and make Switzerland try and sell it's Pharma elsewhere....and see how long those Pharma companies stayed in Basel after that.

too bad 1/3 or more of our land is uninhabitable mountain area.

most swiss don't have EF-problems like "how to live under 120k" but more like "how to pay a rent thats half my salary" problems.

Indeed, the best interests of the EU will almost certainly be in the worst interests of Switzerland - it's the responsibility of the EU to punish Swiss arrogance mercilessly and I'm confident that's exactly what will happen.

It would only solve the problem for those making less that the minimum wage, but not for most people.

Therefore, an obvious NO.

Tom

And yet this "crowded nation" is still less densely populated than your neighbors Italy and Germany...


hmmmm maybe this is just a red herring...

The problem is that potential renegotiations will be more about interior politics of the EU then about the relation with Switzerland. I don't think that the EU will violate its own principles justvto accommodate Switzerland. Lets not forget that the importance of Switzerland for the EU is rather marginal (although Swiss politicians like to blow this out of proportions). Thus the leverage is on the side of the EU.

And if I were running Switzerland, I'd blocade the border as well, and see how much everyone prefers the Brenner and Mont Blanc routes!

Tom

And that's why there will be relatively little difference for those people that actually can contribute to Switzerland. Those who have no skills are unfortunately out of luck, but those who have skills that Switzerland needs then I doubt there will be a problem.

If it goes back to quotas then situation won't be any different from when I first arrived - I got through it, as did many other forum members.

Anyway it's an initiative against Einwanderung (immigration), so those of us already here on at least a B or married to a swiss shouldn't have anything to worry about, at least until the permit runs out or divorce beckons.

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...allegedly.

I added the intermediary results from the cantons Zurich and Berne to the national tally from Teletext, because I wanted to figure out how likely either result was.

And what happens if Germany or France starts putting quotas on the number of Swiss living there?
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics...l?cid=35214184

"More than 700,000 Swiss citizens live outside the country's borders, making up about ten per cent of the total population. Most expats reside in neighbouring European countries."

Would this not depend on at what level the quota is set at?

Your logic is inescapable here Wouldn't that have helped your daughter

As you well know, the Jura and Neuchatel Jura also have high unemployment and large numbers of Frontaliers who also accept low salaries- and yet they voted a clear 'no'- as they realise there are better ways to solve the problems. The watch making and precision engineering industries need to negotiate salaries and conditions, and train more unemployed and young people to fill the vacancies here. The minimum wage of course will not apply to well qualified staff in either of the above mentioned industries- but wage rates for those jobs will and are the way forwards.

I understand what has been voted, but I am unclear if it affects EU workers, residents on a B permit. Does this mean that a C permit will no longer be automatic after 5 years' residence?