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09.02.2014, 18:44
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| | | Re: Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration]
| Quote: | |  | | | This "discussion" becomes more infantile by the minute. | | | | | | Quote: | | | | | yes...I'm in favour of applying quota rules on EF from now on  | | | | | Good idea.
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09.02.2014, 18:46
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| Quote: | | | | | so let me get this right, the proposed minimum is in the range of the wages that cross boarders gets? | | | | | No, it's below.
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09.02.2014, 18:46
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When I saw the press conference from the Bundeshaus, especially from Fr. Sommaruga, I got the feeling that the reason why the majority of the Bundesrat was against it is that it will cause "shit load of work" for them in the following 3 years...  | | The following 5 users would like to thank OSueco for this useful post: | |
09.02.2014, 18:46
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| Quote: | | | | | Makes a lot of sense. | | | | | Twaddle. This is exactly what Europe does not need in the 21st century.
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09.02.2014, 18:49
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The Tages Anzeiger has already laid out three separate outcomes to the vote (Please read here for more information http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/...story/10913193).
A rough translation of the highest outcome is provided below: It is more likely that Switzerland has to change the rules unilaterally to implement the initiative. This can be done by the Federal Assembly by the required quota is introduced by legislative amendment . Does the Parliament to do so within three years of adoption , the Federal Council must implement the initiative by ordinance .
However, the initiative does not contain any provision that Switzerland would have to terminate the Agreement.
There will be a lot of talk, but at this moment, I'm not sure how it will affect all of us "foreigners". Interesting times indeed.
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09.02.2014, 18:49
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| Quote: | | | | | More right than you!? - Yes! - Why!? - Well for starters Tom has Swiss nationality whereas you do not ... savvy!? | | | | | I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood... You see, marrying a Swiss citizen might be a real possibility for me...
I just wondered when I acquire the right to be a stuck-up, narrow minded hypocrite, according to you guys.
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09.02.2014, 18:49
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| Quote: | | | | | Twaddle. This is exactly what Europe does not need in the 21st century. | | | | | Well, which part of the fact that this is a forum did you miss? Shall I sing a song or draw a painting?
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09.02.2014, 18:50
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| Quote: | | | | | When I saw the press conference from the Bundeshaus, especially from Fr. Sommaruga, I got the feeling that the reason why the majority of the Bundesrat was against it is that it will cause "shit load of work" for them in the following 3 years... | | | | | The FDP asks that Blocher be designated to lead negociations with the EU to implement the new agreement after the 9th Feb vote.
They don't lack sense of humour.
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09.02.2014, 18:51
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"..Shall I sing a song or draw a painting"
I would prefer if you didn't. Thanks awfully.
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09.02.2014, 18:52
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maybe a stupid observation, but the initiative just calls for quotas...couldnt the government just place extremely high quotas that have no chance of being filled?
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09.02.2014, 18:52
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| Quote: | | | | | What's infantile about saying that isolation will hurt the Swiss economy and that in turn will lead to people getting fired that don't have permanent resident status? Please explain. Unfortunately, it's not the first time this has happened - just Google for Italians in Switzerland in the late 60s. | | | | | SVP (quote from Toni Brunner today) said that they want to have more short term employments (see L Permit)…and what probably can happen is that if you are unemployed and not having a C-permit will not be eligible to stay…
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09.02.2014, 18:53
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| Quote: | | | | | I wonder how it would feel if EU proposed initiative introducing visitors permits for all the residents in Switzerland. That's a scary thought. Goodbye holiday makers | | | | | So sorry but THAT was the case. While France on its borders (airports for example) made channels for EEC+CH citizens all CH citizens in London Heathrow had to queue behind hundreds of peope from Africa and Asia and if looking anykind of Afro-Asian had no chance to slip. And that meant a difference of an hour
I personally suffered from that 30 or 40 times. Scary ? no no no no scary it it is not but idio0tic it is. And at all times when EU/SVP played the ugly cards (the EU again and again support Ayatollah Blocher while declaring the contrary) I tried to take it with humour
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09.02.2014, 18:53
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| Quote: | | | | | I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood... You see, marrying a Swiss citizen might be a real possibility for me...
I just wondered when I acquire the right to be a stuck-up, narrow minded hypocrite, according to you guys. | | | | | Oh you get your pass and you're baptized again...  |
09.02.2014, 18:54
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Yes the initiative was passed by a huge margin….:roll eyes:
so what you are directly saying is that approx. 50% of the Swiss has no common sense... | | The following 3 users would like to thank OSueco for this useful post: | | | This user groans at OSueco for this post: | |
09.02.2014, 18:56
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| | | Re: Masseneinwanderung Stoppen [initiative to limit immigration]
| Quote: | | | | | So sorry but THAT was the case. While France on its borders (airports for example) made channels for EEC+CH citizens all CH citizens in London Heathrow had to queue behind hundreds of peope from Africa and Asia and if looking anykind of Afro-Asian had no chance to slip. And that meant a difference of an hour
I personally suffered from that 30 or 40 times. Scary ? no no no no scary it it is not but idio0tic it is. And at all times when EU/SVP played the ugly cards (the EU again and again support Ayatollah Blocher while declaring the contrary) I tried to take it with humour | | | | | Given the results of this afternoon, what picture would Dali paint or what words would Kafka put to paper?
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09.02.2014, 18:57
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| Quote: | | | | | I just wondered when I acquire the right to be a stuck-up, narrow minded hypocrite, according to you guys. | | | | | Sounds like you're already there! 
Tom
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09.02.2014, 18:57
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| Quote: | | | | | SVP (quote from Toni Brunner today) said that they want to have more short term employments (see L Permit)…and what probably can happen is that if you are unemployed and not having a C-permit will not be eligible to stay… | | | | | Toni Bruner is still living in the 70's mentality regarding immigration : they thought they will get arms for labour but they discovered they had men. | | The following 2 users would like to thank MrVertigo for this useful post: | |
09.02.2014, 19:01
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| | | Re: results on 9 Feb 14
| Quote: | | | | | 50.3% voted in favour of introduced EU quotas. It only needed 50% to pass. | | | | | And a majority of cantons, which they got almost 2:1.
Tom
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09.02.2014, 19:03
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| Quote: | | | | | Come on, Wolly, go ahead and say it like you wötsch say it!  | | | | | Well, when I saw that lousy bitch on TV I developed what is MORDLUST in German because it was clear to me that this Blocher Lover helped him through to final victory
Whatever, it to me was the ultimate absoluti blödi Dreck-CHuä  | | This user would like to thank Wollishofener for this useful post: | |
09.02.2014, 19:05
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| Quote: | | | | | Given the results of this afternoon, what picture would Dali paint or what words would Kafka put to paper? | | | | | Dali would paint The scream and Kafka would rewrite Heidi (sorry Franz, couldn't resist).
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