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Old 21.09.2011, 02:19
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Very interesting video

So, it shows a very nice and educated lady of the night who has a good experience with this business and makes decent money.

If what she said is true, 500€ average per night..... That is equivalent to a professional job in Switzerland 500/8=62,50 X 1824= 114'000,00€ / year

But then she says, 250€ for 30min and also the whole night 3500€ and with the hotel another 1500€

Well, I sense some inconsistencies here, but what do I know?

(I think in Tenerife: 15 min is down to 30€, If I remember correctly from the personal advertisements found in news papers)

In any case, the money must be good. it beats 25CHF/h for cleaning toilets.

Any guys out there with first hand experience on the current rate in Zurich?

I just read Paulo Coelho's book "11 minutes" . According to the book, Maria, the main character, was getting 300.- per client in Geneva (her clients paying for the hotel).

This was perhaps for one or two hours of her time. In total. With perhaps two or 3 clients a night (?)

The truth may lie somewhere in between.

But, here in Switzerland,...... where perhaps the clients are nice, respectful, considerate, and hygienic oriented.... For some ladies this may be a good professional choice. And then again, it is a matter of choice.
When i was working as a model, i knew this beautiful brazilian girl who happened to be a friend of my ex GF. I didn't know she was/has been an escort until my GF(who knew about it) discovered she had 90 000+ euros in cash in her house. Of course tax free and all this after only 1,5 year. She then sent(i don't know how!!!) that money in Brazil to help her family and to open a small business.

But i suspect, street prostitutes will earn significantly LESS and are more exposed to diseases/crime.
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Old 21.09.2011, 02:34
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Re: Hungarian sex workers flooding to Zurich

I understand thought the worries expressed by some female members here.
When waiting for my friend to go clubbing, this Albanian girl approached me and wanted to offer her services. I was(still i am) broke and was engaged too so nothing.

The next weeks i was waiting there in the same point and i always shared a laugh or smile with her. She was 25 but looked like a 38 years old woman and started to tell me about her life, how she would have loved to come to dance with us, etc..

Then i saw in a car behind me, a guy who was without any doubt her PIMP. Everytime she serviced her client, she would go in the car, give the money to the guy, and wash herself(she told me that). I was so sad that night and didn't enjoy at all the party. I wished i could offer her a better life, another opportunity, and of course arrest the pimp.
I hope the situation in Switzerland is a little better and that many of these girls are not forced -using violence- into this business.

p.s: Sorry for my broken English..

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Old 21.09.2011, 04:55
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Re: Hungarian sex workers flooding to Zurich

Why am I imagining a new SVP campaign arguing that Hungarian sex workers are taking jobs away from their Swiss counterparts?
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Old 21.09.2011, 08:23
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Re: Hungarian sex workers flooding to Zurich

Dougal's Breakfast, no discussion then? your lost.
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Old 21.09.2011, 08:30
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Dougal's Breakfast, no discussion then? your lost.
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Dougal's Breakfast, no discussion then? your lost.
What is there to discuss? Prostitution is exploitative now in Switzerland. The men who visit prostitutes are exploitative bastards now in Switzerland.

You can quote the entire Old Testament if you like, but it won't change those simple facts.
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Old 21.09.2011, 09:49
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Don't worry about that. All men of all tongues know the English sex vocabulary. After all, more than 90% of all Internet porn is made in the USA (no, NOT China for once!).
Even the Swiss ?
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Old 21.09.2011, 09:57
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You normally have to pay extra for that.
And pray how do you know that???
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like tax consulting… *shiver….
Hey, hey, easy there...
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Dougal's Breakfast, no discussion then? your lost.
Na....DB doesn't even need words...... you just gotta get it !

Look a bit closer!
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What is there to discuss? Prostitution is exploitative now in Switzerland. The men who visit prostitutes are exploitative bastards now in Switzerland.

You can quote the entire Old Testament if you like, but it won't change those simple facts.
It's not always like that trust me.
Many many many of these girls/women didn't receive an education or can not work(but have too).
I think that someone have to grow up in some poverty to understand some of them and how they ended there. And with all due riespect, i think this forum is not the right place for this kind of things because most of its members have always had at least a "decent" life and were free to travel and go wherever they wanted(Not everybody come from UK, USA, EUR-the rich part-).

By the way i'm a guy.

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I agree with you ONLY if there is some kind of violence(physical or mental) involved between the prostitute and her PIMP.
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Re: Hungarian sex workers flooding to Zurich

I have a few good friends from around the world that have moved to Greece to work for an organisation called A21, an organisation that works to abolish modern slavery, ie. human trafficking. One in particular works on the front lines, physically rescuing women from the sex trade. He has told me a few stories, and it is NOT glamorous, not sophisticated, and definitely NOT safe.

There are so many things that go unnoticed, or unreported. Many women claim to be doing it out of freedom, or whatever, only because they'll be beaten or killed if they say anything about their pimp. Especially because these pimps are more likely than not, "respectable" people in society, that work in pimping and trafficking without ANYONE knowing, including their wife and daughters! And it's not just people that don't have any other choice, but to work in that trade (of pimping). A lot of the time these organisations can't go to the police, or government, because they are full of people that are either within the industry, or willing to turn a blind eye for cash (which then makes them part of the industry!).

Women that are pimped make VERY little money, having to pay their pimps from 2000euros a week, plus the costs of being in a particular location.

Even though we asked my friend to tell us about it, we all nearly brought up our lunch when he did.
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I think that someone have to grow up in some poverty to understand some of them and how they ended there.
What has that got to do with their clients being exploitative, selfish bastards?
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Old 21.09.2011, 10:17
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damn... that wasn't the picture I was hoping to see.
The picture doesn't illustrate the article. It's a stock photo.
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DB doesn't even need words
It's when people start using words that this thread goes horribly wrong.
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What has that got to do with their clients being exploitative, selfish bastards?
I have personal stories of my neighbours(grown women) in Africa who came here in Switzerland when i was a teenager to do this kind of "job" for 3 months and go back home with the money for 1/2 years for their family.
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Whilst i understand worries about the business, but peopel have to ask themselves how is this possible? are they all stupid?
I know many of them are abused but their PIMP and in that case i agree with you.
But there is also a lot of these girls who choose to "work" like this to have fast money(to invest, feed little brothers, or buy crack i don't know).
If an alternative existed, many of them would not be in the streets.

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I have personal stories of my neighbours(grown women) in Africa who came here in Switzerland when i was a teenager to do this kind of "job" for 3 months and go back home with the money for 1/2 years for her family.
Fascinating.

What has that got to do with their clients being exploitative, selfish bastards?
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Old 21.09.2011, 10:26
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I guess that my biggest problem with prostitution is that I see so many women (even still today) base their identities primarily upon their sexuality (regardless of whether or not they are prostitutes). And so I feel like prostitution only perpetuates this warped sense of female identity. Of course, I have absolutely no problem with women "embracing their sensuality," but when they exploit their own sexuality in lieu of their intelligence or integrity, then as a woman, I am rather offended.

Sadly, though, many of these women probably come from societies in which the men already treated them that way (according to their sexuality). And so they are just vicitms of their own culture (as perhaps we all are).
I guess that my biggest problem with politics is that I see so many men (even still today) base thier identities prmarily upon thier power (regardless of whether or not they are politicians (or lawyers or bankers)). And so I feel like politics only perpetuates this warped sense of male identity. Of course, I have no problem with men "embracing their power," but when they exploit their own power in lieu of their intelligence or integrity, then as a man, I am rather offended.

Sadly, though, many of these men probably come from societies in which the women already expect that of them (according to thier power). And so they are just victims of thier own culutre (as perhaps we all are).

But then I guess understanding that allows us to raise above it.
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