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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

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I swore I'd never mention it again - so young lady in Neuch I'll stick to my promise, lol.

Now, MN time to educate him in the Ways of Proper COOKING no?
Funny you should say that. I got on a bus the other day and the bus driver said to me 'If you're English I hope you haven't got any fish with you!'

Sorry but I just couldn't resist.
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Simple rules: if it smells funny when you open it, bin it. Otherwise trust your own instinct and cook it thoroughly.
Although perfectly good meat can smell funny to some people - an organic chicken can smell or taste much stronger than a bleached cheap one.
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Old 06.10.2011, 16:19
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[*]It is an accessible representative of the Faceless Evil Empire based in Stockholm, which is determined to possess our souls, minds and effluvia.
But the Swedes have delicious meatballs, ABBA and a country full of beautiful blondes. And the Ice Hotel.

I don't think they want anything more than the ad revenue.

The only thing I don't like about the articles is that they're usually nothing to raise my spirits about living here, e.g. the article about the mayor who resigned after getting death threats for being pro-immigration.
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Old 06.10.2011, 16:23
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

I really shouldn't complain about COOP... I been pushin' old meat for awhile now.


( yes , even for me that was bad... I'll get my coat )

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Although perfectly good meat can smell funny to some people - an organic chicken can smell or taste much stronger than a bleached cheap one.
Bleaching is a popular trick to extend the fresh look of chicken breasts. Injecting water too make it meat heavier - that's why they put the pad at the bottom of the box nowdays.

Always read the label too. I saw beef mince last week that had 15% binding agents in it. I guess I wouldn't have needed breadcrumbs in my meatballs with that stuff

I only buy meat now at my local butcher. The better taste is worth the premium. I'd prefer to eat less better quality stuff anyways. Same goes for wine.
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Old 06.10.2011, 16:52
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

This is way i never bought meat ... not the fact that is expensive ... is because i can never trust the hands behind my .... meat xD

but serioulsy i tough everybody nows that every single big company that sells food does things like that.. thats why if you go there to buy food.. you see it .. smell it and then choose it and find out the next day if you were right or wrong
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

I've glance through the thread. Am I right in thinking;
  • Selling old manky meat for 50 CHF/kg = Meh. It happens; just give it a sniff.
  • Sending the occasional automated news related message = Rage, furore and hatred.
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Old 06.10.2011, 17:09
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Selling old manky meat for 50 CHF/kg = Meh. It happens; just give it a sniff.
Ever the old cheapo, hey? Anything for less than CHF 70/kg can't be any good.
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

The Kassensturz has done some more digging and - surprise, surprise - found lots of witnesses who confirm that repacking or simply marinating about-to-expire meat is a common practice in COOPs all over the country.
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/wirtscha...story/31128320

The less meat was thrown away, the more bonus did the managers get.
Talk about mis-guided bonus-objectives...

Except for minced meat, cold cuts and sausages (which, I'm hoping no one has any illusions about, contain the meat that really no-one wanted to buy), there's IMO no reason meat couldn't be sold a couple of days or even a week after the "best use before" date.
Just not at the full price.
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Old 13.11.2011, 12:21
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

External controls to be introduced to curb malpractice, says Coop

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Coop boss Joos Sutter told the Sonntags Blick newspaper that from the beginning of next year an independent quality control company would make unannounced visits to the butcher’s sections of its supermarkets.

The move is in response to revelations by a German-language consumer television programme, Kassensturz, that packaged meat past its use-by date was routinely removed from its packaging and offered for sale at the open meat counter as fresh meat.

The supermarket chain also set up an ombudsman’s office so employees can lodge complaints without fear of reprisals.
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

Oh, those eco-friendly Swiss...... at least when they get caught.
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

we have a pretty good way of checking the freshness of meat, we wave a small piece under one of cats noses, if they turn their nose up at it then it's a pretty good sign the meat is off
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

I would like to add I strongly believe they add water to the meat at both Coop and Migro's to add weight to the packing. It was an old trick I use to see butchers use to make more money. Wehen you cook meat here it usually forms alot of water you have to cook off. Normal beef doesn't do this.
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Old 13.11.2011, 18:03
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I would like to add I strongly believe they add water to the meat at both Coop and Migro's to add weight to the packing. It was an old trick I use to see butchers use to make more money. Wehen you cook meat here it usually forms alot of water you have to cook off. Normal beef doesn't do this.
Hmmm. I have a friend who occasionally brings me back bacon from the UK.
I have never seen so much water coming out of Swiss bacon as I have out of that stuff. Yuk!!

In fact, in my opinion, you can keep yer German/ American/ British imports, etc, because despite this Coop incident, the quality of meat here is way above anything I've ever had the misfortune to encounter in Britain.
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Old 13.11.2011, 19:09
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

What about websites that recycle old news stories as if they had a scoop?

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One of the biggest supermarket chains in the US was busted for doing this same thing about 10 years ago. They wouldn't even repackage the meat. They would just cover up the old stickers with new ones that had later expiration dates.

I've heard, though, that the Swiss are otherwise extremely cautious when it comes to their expiration dates and usually set the dates for much sooner than is really needed. I'm not sure if that's true, but it's something I've been told a few times... and it does seem to me that a lot of foods here have very soon expiry dates.
Looking at it from a different perspective, though, I think there is far worse to be found in those supermarkets that chuck obscene amounts of food out when it's still perfectly edible. If it hadn't been reported with a "greedy financial" light of Coop trying to make a fast buck out of "rotten meat" it wouldn't have looked so bad.

Like Dougal's Breakfast said earlier in the thread, use your nose and eyes to check food whether has gone off or not.

The meat I buy is from the butcher down the road and (checks recent packaging) he doesn't even put a use by date on his stuff.
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we have a pretty good way of checking the freshness of meat, we wave a small piece under one of cats noses, if they turn their nose up at it then it's a pretty good sign the meat is off
Good trick!

Not very convenient to bring the cat to do grocery though...
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What about websites that recycle old news stories as if they had a scoop?
Well, they change the sell-by date and inject it with water, presumably.

At least it doesn't come at 50.-/kg....
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

Just to even things out - Migros has also been caught doing this in the past:

http://archives.24heures.ch/VQ/LAUSA...r-confirmer-le
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Re: Coop caught selling old meat as new

What gets me, is that in all the pictures they show about Coop getting caught selling old me as new there is somebody holding meat without a glove or a utensil.
 




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