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The Local 05.10.2011 13:24

Former employees of supermarket chain Coop have said that they were occasionally ordered to take old packaged meat off the shelves, repackage it and put it for sale again as fresh meat, even after the expiration date.

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Millso 06.10.2011 10:13

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I'm not surprised to be honest. Where I used to work in Ireland (in the butchers section of a large supermarket chain), we often minced old meat (ie about to expire or aleady expired a day or two) and put it out behind the counter. When customers then bought the meat the price tag then added another couple of days before it would "expire".

I never understood how they got away with it all the time ,though to be honest, the meat tasted fine and I never felt ill the few times I ate it. I'm not really squeamish about this type of thing and actually believe that often the use by date is very pessimistic or just plain wrong (like maple syrup that always seems to expire about a month before pancake day...).

hannah'sauntie 06.10.2011 10:26

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Originally Posted by Millso (Post 1366395)
I'm not surprised to be honest. Where I used to work in Ireland (in the butchers section of a large supermarket chain), we often minced old meat (ie about to expire or aleady expired a day or two) and put it out behind the counter. When customers then bought the meat the price tag then added another couple of days before it would "expire".

I never understood how they got away with it all the time ,though to be honest, the meat tasted fine and I never felt ill the few times I ate it. I'm not really squeamish about this type of thing and actually believe that often the use by date is very pessimistic or just plain wrong (like maple syrup that always seems to expire about a month before pancake day...).

Maple syrup is one thing, but meat!! :msnsick:
Another good reason to be vegetarian.

The_Love_Doctor 06.10.2011 10:36

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Waste not want not...

I don't see a problem... Saturday half price shopping at 4pm in coop is the time I go to the super market :D

bigblue2 06.10.2011 10:40

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as a student I also worked for a large supermarket chain, and this was common, don't know if its changed now but then the managers used to get into real s**t if they over ordered and had to throw stuff away, so if it was near its date it was taken back down stairs and repackaged. this was back in the day when we had real butchers etc on site, so probably can't happen now

Verbier 06.10.2011 11:00

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I know that you picked up the title from the Local but shouldn't it be "Coop accused of selling old meat as new"?

Not to defend Coop, but I don't see anywhere in the article where an independent or government authority "caught" Coop doing anything. Seems to be a "he said / she said" situation with no proof.

faeirywoman 06.10.2011 11:21

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"Coop workers would wait until the sell-by date before unpacking it and selling it again as fresh meat. Chicken breasts and beef fillets remained on sale for several days after their expiration dates, the ex-worker alleged."


- i reckon that quote there from the article is precise enough to imply the Coop has been 'caught' lol

Verbier 06.10.2011 11:36

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Originally Posted by faeirywoman (Post 1366511)
"Coop workers would wait until the sell-by date before unpacking it and selling it again as fresh meat. Chicken breasts and beef fillets remained on sale for several days after their expiration dates, the ex-worker alleged."


- i reckon that quote there from the article is precise enough to imply the Coop has been 'caught' lol

Not really ;)

Nil 06.10.2011 11:58

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Originally Posted by Verbier (Post 1366481)
I know that you picked up the title from the Local but shouldn't it be "Coop accused of selling old meat as new"?

Not to defend Coop, but I don't see anywhere in the article where an independent or government authority "caught" Coop doing anything. Seems to be a "he said / she said" situation with no proof.

Are you saying the Local is actually gossiping? :eek:

How shocking and surprising.... :rolleyes:

M. Ploymi 06.10.2011 12:05

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Kind of OT, but why does The Local always get groaned? :confused:

Nil 06.10.2011 12:20

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Originally Posted by M. Ploymi (Post 1366569)
Kind of OT, but why does The Local always get groaned? :confused:

I'll guess it is because he is acting like a bad remix of a new old Beverly Hills 90210.

Guest 06.10.2011 13:17

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Originally Posted by M. Ploymi (Post 1366569)
Kind of OT, but why does The Local always get groaned? :confused:

There are several reasons:

  • It isn't a human being - it is a mindless robot, without which the English Forum managed perfectly well for the first six years of its existence;
  • Its titles are poorly written and misleading;
  • The news articles to which it provides links are probably badly translated rip-offs from the 20 Minuten and Blick newspapers, written in a tasteless tabloid style. They are frequently inaccurate and sensational in nature.
  • It is an accessible representative of the Faceless Evil Empire based in Stockholm, which is determined to possess our souls, minds and effluvia.
I hope that explains the situation to your satisfaction. :)

TiMow 06.10.2011 14:01

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It's all right for you lot ... I used to sometimes shop in this branch, and probably bought meat - although usually vac-pac.

Having also spent some of my student years working for the then biggest supermarket chain (in UK), I am also aware of the tricks of the trade, but find it it a little surprising (stupid) that there are those who try the same now - with much tighter food regs. and controls.

tom tulpe 06.10.2011 14:04

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Originally Posted by TiMow (Post 1366784)
It's all right for you lot ... I used to sometimes shop in this branch, and probably bought meat - although usually vac-pac.

Having also spent some of my student years working for the then biggest supermarket chain (in UK), I am also aware of the tricks of the trade, but find it it a little surprising (stupid) that there are those who try the same now - with much tighter food regs. and controls.

Uh, yeah, maybe, but after all this is Swiss Meat, which is 3 times or so the price of non-Swiss Meat (you know, the kind where you get all sorts of disease if you so much as eye it in the meat counter at Carrefour St. Louis), so it must be fine. :msnshock:

Tom1234 06.10.2011 15:11

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If people are really concerned about this then I suggest they never eat in restaurants, ever.

You're much more likely to get ill from eating in a restaurant than from anything you buy and cook from the supermarket.

Restaurants have much more interesting 'Tricks of the trade'.

Guest 06.10.2011 15:14

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Simple rules: if it smells funny when you open it, bin it. Otherwise trust your own instinct and cook it thoroughly.

I must admit that I was a stickler for sell-by dates when I was a bachelor, but I've since been educated in the Ways of Proper Eating and haven't looked back since. :)

bigblue2 06.10.2011 15:19

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Quote:

Simple rules: if it smells funny when you open it, bin it. Otherwise trust your own instinct and cook it thoroughly.

I must admit that I was a stickler for sell-by dates when I was a bachelor, but I've since been educated in the Ways of Proper Eating and haven't looked back since. :)

to be fair pot noodles have a very long sell by date though

Pancakes 06.10.2011 15:23

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One of the biggest supermarket chains in the US was busted for doing this same thing about 10 years ago. They wouldn't even repackage the meat. They would just cover up the old stickers with new ones that had later expiration dates.

I've heard, though, that the Swiss are otherwise extremely cautious when it comes to their expiration dates and usually set the dates for much sooner than is really needed. I'm not sure if that's true, but it's something I've been told a few times... and it does seem to me that a lot of foods here have very soon expiry dates.

Guest 06.10.2011 15:25

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 1366916)
If people are really concerned about this then I suggest they never eat in restaurants, ever.

You're much more likely to get ill from eating in a restaurant than from anything you buy and cook from the supermarket.

Restaurants have much more interesting 'Tricks of the trade'.

Got Campylobactor from a Zizzi restaurant in the UK last year- from undercooked chicken. NOT to be recommended - but I did lose a few kilos.

Guest 06.10.2011 15:27

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Quote:

Simple rules: if it smells funny when you open it, bin it. Otherwise trust your own instinct and cook it thoroughly.

I must admit that I was a stickler for sell-by dates when I was a bachelor, but I've since been educated in the Ways of Proper Eating and haven't looked back since. :)
I swore I'd never mention it again - so young lady in Neuch I'll stick to my promise, lol.

Now, MN time to educate him in the Ways of Proper COOKING no?


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