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Swiss tourist authorities have reacted with anger to a British report highlighting the increasingly pricey nature of winter holidays in the Swiss Alps.

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Old 26.10.2011, 19:25
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Re: British skiers warned off Switzerland

Uh, why are the Swiss either surprised or pissed that folks don't want to spend 2x the price on a skiing holiday in Switzerland that they could get elsewhere, e.g. the French Alps, Banff (which is awesome, really) and the US? I mean, hello? The Swiss are ready to pay that in CHF, but anyone else? I've got a skiing holiday booked and it isn't in Switzerland....
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Old 26.10.2011, 19:42
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Plenty of very reasonably priced resorts in CH, Verbier isn't one of them! Much rather enjoy a full week skiing rather than long flights (Banff? 10 hours?)- we twice went to Colorado (to stay and ski with friends) but we needed 2 weeks for 10 days skiing and be jet lagged either end of hols.

Last year we went to St Foy (France) with our (grown-up) kids and grand-kids- the prices were just incredibly high. Use you loaf and look around- pick the smaller, less known resorts, but part of bigger areas if you are intermediate and above (like Veysonnaz, part of the 4 valleys, but 1/3 rd of price), or Torgon, part of Portes du Soleil, but practically unknown and with incredible prices.

Look out for special offers - if you are not stuck with half term dates. For instance ski passes in Arolla will be half price for the whole of January- with small hotels at very reasonable rates in Les Haudères below.
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Re: British skiers warned off Switzerland

Interesting as we're not flying across the Atlantic but nothing I saw in CH was anything I'd consider a deal....maybe I just don't know the right places to look. Still, the Swiss should be asking the English tour operators why they're warding folks off and offering deals instead of getting angry. It's no secret that travel here, aside from the packages, is a lot more expensive than elsewhere. Half-price here is normal price elsewhere much of the time.....
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Re: British skiers warned off Switzerland

Look in Aldi Reisen. Last year 5 days in Arosa, 4 star hotel, half board for 2 with ski passes and bus to ski lift cost ... 1250 Chf. The same hotel is already in the brochure with similar prices.
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Re: British skiers warned off Switzerland

Agreed that knowing where to look is a great help - but there are great deals around, honest.
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Interesting as we're not flying across the Atlantic but nothing I saw in CH was anything I'd consider a deal....maybe I just don't know the right places to look. Still, the Swiss should be asking the English tour operators why they're warding folks off and offering deals instead of getting angry. It's no secret that travel here, aside from the packages, is a lot more expensive than elsewhere. Half-price here is normal price elsewhere much of the time.....
The packages here arent cheap either. A couple of friends from the UK wanted to visit me and ski in Jan/Feb and they were appalled by the prices of packages of hotel in Adelboden I pointed them to - yes its popular but it isnt Klosters or St Moritz. The hotel was offering a ski package which included half board, ski passes etc - HOWEVER, when I told them not to think about package and re-look at cheaper hotels around the region and just pay for the ski passes, it worked out to be a good 50% cheaper!

I am always sceptical about packages. It happened to us when we went to the Maldives recently too - we were encouraged by our British friends who have been there to take up half / full board packages but we didnt and it worked out so much cheaper! I noticed that some people tend to just go for the entire package rather than shopping around and getting flights/hotels/ski passes separately.

But it is what it is - Switzerland IS expensive compared to the rest of Europe not just for skiing. We all know that but it really pays to look around.
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This only surveyed 8 resorts in Europe? I mean how many resorts are there in Switzerland on its own.

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'Adelboden emerges as the most expensive of the eight European resorts survey, thought it is slightly less costly than Killington (USA) and Banff (Canada).'

Switzerland has the strong franc to blame. What excuse do the US and Canada have?
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Here is a very good deal - not luxury end of the market - but great fun and very friendly, huge ski area, slopes right next to chalet:

La Moubra
Crans-Montana
Alpenhotel Rodania
Saas Grund
Hotel Basic
Arosa
Florentinum Mountain Lodge
Arosa
Mr G Shirt
The Ski Company
4a Nelson Road
Greenwich
London SE10 9JB
T: 020 8858 9535
F: 020 8858 5511
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2 persons sharing a room £360 £_____
3 persons sharing a room £330 £_____
4 persons sharing a room £300 £_____
5 persons sharing an apartment with 3 bedrooms £330 £_____
6 persons sharing an apartment with 2 bedrooms £300 £_____
Packed lunch
Sandwich + fruit + chocolate + drink £ 20 £_____
Return transfer by coach
London / Torgon ( car parking to be provided ) £ 100 £_____
6 day ski pass ‘Evasion’
Adults over 20 years of age £145 £_____
Youths 16 to 19 years of age £115 £_____
Children 5 to 16 years of age £ 95 £_____
Little ones under 5 years of age £ 0 £_____
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Ski boots £ 15 £_____
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Skis ( suitable for advanced and demanding skiers ) £ 50 £_____
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Look in Aldi Reisen. Last year 5 days in Arosa, 4 star hotel, half board for 2 with ski passes and bus to ski lift cost ... 1250 Chf. The same hotel is already in the brochure with similar prices.
Can highly recommend Aldi Reisen as they offer excellent holidays at extremely fair prices. Just come back from our second holiday with them, it was to Austria mind (first was to Oberstaufen, Bavaria). We are now keeping our eye out for a suitable deal to a Swiss resort for just after New Year.

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Re: British skiers warned off Switzerland

I have rented apartments for dirt cheap in Saas Fee for a week. You don't get daily cleaning but you can cook your own meals. Maybe not what people want on holiday but it can be done at a reasonable cost. This is what Swiss do.
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Can highly recommend Aldi Reisen as they offer excellent holidays at extremely fair prices. Just come back from our second holiday with them, it was to Austria mind (first was to Oberstaufen, Bavaira). We are now keeping our eye out for a suitable deal to a Swiss resort for just after New Year.
And the child reductions are brilliant ... often 50% reduction and sometimes 100% for children under 12. We chose the Arosa holiday last year because just one adult was going and this hotel offered a reduction for child when with just one adult.

They also have a Last Minute function which we used for a great half term deal earlier this month. And yes, Austria is amazingly good value on this site .. but CH is also not bad.
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And the child reductions are brilliant ... often 50% reduction and sometimes 100% for children under 12. We chose the Arosa holiday last year because just one adult was going and this hotel offered a reduction for child when with just one adult.

They also have a Last Minute function which we used for a great half term deal earlier this month. And yes, Austria is amazingly good value on this site .. but CH is also not bad.
Yep, that is the main reason we go with them as we pick resorts where our two kids (6 and 2 respectively) go free. We just stayed in Seefeld in Austria, 4 star hotel, half board, and it was just over CHF 1000 for the week for four of us (resort, hotel food, location, room was perfect.) Oberstaufen, Bavaria was a short break stay, b&b basis in a huge apartment in the Hotel Mondi in Oberstaufen. Again the kids were free.

My Aunty is coming over from England for New Year and we would like to go away with her, so keeping an eye out for hotels offering sgl rooms and free stays for the kids. Seen a couple, just gotta get definite dates from the lady in question...;-))
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Re: British skiers warned off Switzerland

Used to meet lots of Brits on the lifts at Whistler in British Columbia. Definitely cheaper, a much better resort than just about anywhere when the snow's on, and a lot cheaper for them given the exchange rate. You could get a condo room with a nice kitchen in it for a good rate and food was cheap so you didn't spend a lot of money eating out (unless you wanted to). I don't blame them. I miss Whistler. :-(
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Whistler flight 12 hours, or more + transfer- great if you can take 2 weeks off. Would you really go to Whistler or lake Tahoe for 1 week, honest? Much rather go more local (even if France, Austria or Italy) and enjoy 6 days skiing without jet lag. Kilington is only 8 hours + transfer, but very cold, windy, icy.

Even Verbier does great lift reductions for families- for the 4 of us we just paid 2 full passes (passports needed - we tried to take the daughter of a friend once and were caught out).

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This only surveyed 8 resorts in Europe? I mean how many resorts are there in Switzerland on its own.

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'Adelboden emerges as the most expensive of the eight European resorts survey, thought it is slightly less costly than Killington (USA) and Banff (Canada).'

Switzerland has the strong franc to blame. What excuse do the US and Canada have?
Don't know about Canada, but skiing has always just been wicked expensive in the US. Keeps the riff-raff out

We go to Serfaus in Austria - but it is far from cheap but brilliant for the kids. I can't do Seefeld again - the downhill too limited. But I think the cross country is really great there...maybe some year we'll try a Swiss resort now that we're here!
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The great advantage is my Chamonix Season pass will cover Verbier & hopefully there will be less queues & more powder. Stay positive every cloud has a silver lining.
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Re: British skiers warned off Switzerland

That Killington, one of the places I used to ski, and where my nephew is (or was, due to flooding, don't know how it is these past days) a ski bum for years, is still MORE expensive than CH doesn't surprise me at all.

When I came here, I was surprised how cheap it was compared to anywhere in NE, and far better, no lines, etc.

Now I'm lazy. Nice weather on a Saturday, I'll drive an hour or two, and have a nice day, then drive home. Cheap.

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Re: British skiers warned off Switzerland

Ski passes in the US can be very expensive compared to CH, if you can't get a discount (though season passes are ridiculously cheap in the US compared to CH). Lodging on the other hand can be found at a lower cost in the US (at least in Colorado)......though as I noted above, with some effort you can find lower cost lodging in CH also. I would not recommend traveling to the US Northeast from Europe to ski. You might as fly to the West if you are already on a plane.

Apres ski is way better in Europe. Especially in Austria. Though, Killington probably has the best nightlife of US ski resorts.
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Re: British skiers warned off Switzerland

We use Interhome and have found some great deals in appts/appthotels . Have stayed several times in Crans - your own appt but really reasonable, and Ovronnaz.
A lot of the appthotels offer your own apt but with pools , restaurants if you want them on site and some have got great nurseries for the children.
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