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People who reveal the location of Swiss speed cameras on the internet face fines of up to 10,000 francs ($10,700), under new laws.

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Old 22.12.2011, 13:49
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"This is a totally disproportionate decision,” said Radical Party councillor Markus Hutter, pointing out that even the police erect speed camera warning signs and that GPS navigation systems often alert drivers when they are approaching cameras."

Seems the well informed Radical Party councillor Markus Hutter does not know that GPS navigation systems which alert drivers when they are approaching cameras are illegal in Switzerland! The systems can be confiscated & a fine of around 1/200 CHF.
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Old 22.12.2011, 14:00
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"This is a totally disproportionate decision,” said Radical Party councillor Markus Hutter, pointing out that even the police erect speed camera warning signs and that GPS navigation systems often alert drivers when they are approaching cameras."

Seems the well informed Radical Party councillor Markus Hutter does not know that GPS navigation systems which alert drivers when they are approaching cameras are illegal in Switzerland! The systems can be confiscated & a fine of around 1/200 CHF.

mine does it all over Europe Except in CH .....are they programmed like that?
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mine does it all over Europe Except in CH .....are they programmed like that?
Yes, but you can get speed camera POI files with Swiss cameras in.

My CoPilot has Europe but not Swiss, and if I wanted Swiss (which obviously I wouldn't) then I would probably get them from somewhere like SCDB.info
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Old 22.12.2011, 14:40
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mine does it all over Europe Except in CH .....are they programmed like that?
Yes. They latest speed cameras databases are 2009 I think. All big manufacturers of units have removed the swiss speed cameras from their maps so if you update you no longer have the cameras. Most of the GPS warners have also deleted the CH cameras in the next updates, so if you want to get one with them you need to find an older update or include them as POI or something similar by yourself. It's do-able. Maybe you won't have ALL the speed cameras, but most of them.

There are few groups who collect these data (user-driven) one is French another one is English, if you search them with mentioned keyword you can find them.

Another point is how they will search your GPS to find out if you have the speed cameras is questionable for me.

There are 2 other programs that are GPS and user driven with real live data from drivers (waze and trapster) but they work on 3g/mobile Internet hence I never tried them. I guess both programs now will be illegal in Switzerland. But the reports are not only speed cameras, also traffic jams, workers on road etc.

Another possibility is if you have a smart phone with a GPS you can set up a small easy app to remind you of the cameras, but as I said the latest official update is 2009 but users have been updating it. SCBD has excluded Switzerland from the latest updates also.

I don't know how this device is legal in Switzerland?

http://www.radar.ch/
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People who reveal the location of Swiss speed cameras on the internet face fines of up to 10,000 francs ($10,700), under new laws.

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I love unenforceable laws.
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Both the Swiss People’s Party and the Radical Party rejected the ban.
I fully understand why they would, I've actually seen Blocher driving his black Volvo XC 90.
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Re: Online speed camera warnings to be banned

I'll just post some areas that are best viewed below the speed limit to ensure you see the natural beauty of the area...for a mile or so
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Re: Online speed camera warnings to be banned

Call the police!
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Re: Online speed camera warnings to be banned

Just start a new wesite called "Areas which are advised not to speed" and make sure there are no mentions of speed cameras

I think that is a stupid law. I most countries, cameras are put there to try to stop drivers from speeding in the first place, not to catch them in a dangerous act.
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Yes. They latest speed cameras databases are 2009 I think. All big manufacturers of units have removed the swiss speed cameras from their maps so if you update you no longer have the cameras. Most of the GPS warners have also deleted the CH cameras in the next updates, so if you want to get one with them you need to find an older update or include them as POI or something similar by yourself. It's do-able. Maybe you won't have ALL the speed cameras, but most of them.

There are few groups who collect these data (user-driven) one is French another one is English, if you search them with mentioned keyword you can find them.

Another point is how they will search your GPS to find out if you have the speed cameras is questionable for me.

There are 2 other programs that are GPS and user driven with real live data from drivers (waze and trapster) but they work on 3g/mobile Internet hence I never tried them. I guess both programs now will be illegal in Switzerland. But the reports are not only speed cameras, also traffic jams, workers on road etc.

Another possibility is if you have a smart phone with a GPS you can set up a small easy app to remind you of the cameras, but as I said the latest official update is 2009 but users have been updating it. SCBD has excluded Switzerland from the latest updates also.

I don't know how this device is legal in Switzerland?

http://www.radar.ch/
I have a friend who was stopped in a police control & the officer checked his GPS in a very competent way; luckily he had no Swiss speed cameras installed.
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Re: Online speed camera warnings to be banned

What about that one just before the Gubrist on the A1 headed west?

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Old 22.12.2011, 15:49
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Re: Online speed camera warnings to be banned

Even though these signs in France make me chuckle every time I see one (radar ahead) I fully understand the point of them, it's to get drivers to slow down!



In Switzerland it's all about turning a profit.

In 2009 Kanton Zurich earned CHF 69 million from their radar units..! One unit on Hohlstrasse alone earned CHF 5 million..!! A total of 458,000 speeding citations were issued.

source: http://www.20min.ch/news/zuerich/story/11632076
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Re: Online speed camera warnings to be banned

Wouldn't it be easier to observe the speed limit?
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