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Re: Radical Muslims plan biggest Swiss mosque

And anyway everyone knows that the Grand Saconnex mosque was built with Saudi money but people have short memories...
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Old 16.01.2012, 20:54
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is radical the correct word for people who want to build a place to pray ?
The
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They they want to build the place in Bern instead of Zürich or Basel or Geneva with far more Muslims shows that it is confrontation and provocation what they have in mind, and not so much the requirements of the Muslim communities. Worst is that hose IZRS chaps always talk as if representing THE Muslims in Switzerland, while they in reality are just a small minority, dominated by some rather weird Swiss converts
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Old 16.01.2012, 21:21
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Old 16.01.2012, 21:32
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They they want to build the place in Bern instead of Zürich or Basel or Geneva with far more Muslims shows that it is confrontation and provocation what they have in mind, and not so much the requirements of the Muslim communities. Worst is that hose IZRS chaps always talk as if representing THE Muslims in Switzerland, while they in reality are just a small minority, dominated by some rather weird Swiss converts
There are actually more muslim residents (in absolute numbers) in Bern than in Basel or Geneva. Astonishingly, Aargau has the second biggest popoulation after Zurich, closely folllowed by Bern and St. Gallen.

But you are right in that today, some people representing the more moderate muslims (the vast majority of all muslims here) clearly stated that there is no demand for a new mosque in Bern and especially not such a big one.
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Re: Radical Muslims plan biggest Swiss mosque

At the risk of a flaming:

The problem specifically with these guys is that they have a very basic life view wich corresponds to a particularly harsh view of what Islam is and is not. Because of this, and the view that any Muslim who disagrees with them is an apostate, and therefore subject to hanging, they tend to be most troublesome to other Muslims.

I have had some experience of this amongst the communites in London where they are aggressive and force communties out of their own mosques, so I can understand a certain degree of nervousnous amongst more integrated Muslim communites.

Add to this the complete chaos that they sometimes cause

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...le-hanged.html

and you can understand why the wider community does not really want them in their presence. Tolerence is one thing, but tolerence of the intolerant is a little suidcidal...
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Astonishingly, Aargau has the second biggest popoulation after Zurich,
Why is that surprising?

There are plenty of Bosnians in Aargau.
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The problem specifically with these guys is that they have a very basic life view wich corresponds to a particularly harsh view of what Islam is and is not.
Are you referring to readers of The Local?
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Why is that surprising?

There are plenty of Bosnians in Aargau.
Yeah well I know that. But I'd still have guessed that the number of residents of muslim faith (especially taking into account those of Turkish and northern African origin) in some other cantons would be bigger.

Nothing too special about it, I was just wrongfully assuming sth. different.
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Re: Radical Muslims plan biggest Swiss mosque

If you wanna know about islam . Here it is
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/default.asp
The site belongs to Yusuf Estes who was a missionary with a church.
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There are actually more muslim residents (in absolute numbers) in Bern than in Basel or Geneva. Astonishingly, Aargau has the second biggest popoulation after Zurich, closely folllowed by Bern and St. Gallen.

But you are right in that today, some people representing the more moderate muslims (the vast majority of all muslims here) clearly stated that there is no demand for a new mosque in Bern and especially not such a big one.
I am a bit astonished to hear this. BUT the explanation is relatively easy, as of course many Muslims in Geneva and Basel have their domicile on the French side of the border in spite of working and living in Geneva and Basel.
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Re: Radical Muslims plan biggest Swiss mosque

Men never do evil so completely and enthusiastically as when they do it from religious conviction. (The Prague Cemetery, pag.18)
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