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A 34-year-old father of two has been sentenced to eight years in prison after he kidnapped his six and seven-year-old sons, took them to Tunisia, and told their mother to pay him 170,000 francs ($182,000) if she wanted to get her children back.

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Old 24.01.2012, 14:02
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Re: Dad tried to sell children to their own mum

In this case, I hope he is never going to be able to see his kids again.
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Old 24.01.2012, 14:11
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Darn foreigners. You can never trust them.
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Re: Dad tried to sell children to their own mum

Did he also steal a Twix from the Kiosk on his way on ?
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Old 24.01.2012, 14:30
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Hmm, this reminds me of a fellow ef member asking about his rights for custody as a stay-at-home dad last year.

You never know.
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Old 24.01.2012, 16:41
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Re: Dad tried to sell children to their own mum

Ignoring the obvious illegal attributes of this particular situation, this is actually what is happening to many fathers on an acceptable daily basis.
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Hmm, this reminds me of a fellow ef member asking about his rights for custody as a stay-at-home dad last year.

You never know.
I agree there are two sides to a story, i this instanceone would be interested to know the opposing version. This reminds me of a similar case in Lausanne in 2011. where a (Swiss) women after the breakdown of her marriage, abducted her two South African children to Switzerland. She was not prosecuted for abduction but had to return to their place of habitual residence, South Africa.
In this case one can only I hope that the mom would be able to see her children again.

(The paternal grandparents have full legal custody granted by a Tunesian court.)
Tunesia is not a signatory to The Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction. Thus this treaty cannot be invoked if a child is taken from the Switzerland to Tunisia.

International relationships are complicated, in this case horrendously so.
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Re: Dad tried to sell children to their own mum

I know that in some countries, when custody has been disputed, the children have travel restrictions placed on them, so they cannot leave without the right parent (if sole custody has been awarded). If the parents have joint custody, then agreement of both parents is required before the children can leave the country. I guess this is not the case in Switzerland?
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Old 24.01.2012, 17:29
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I know that in some countries, when custody has been disputed, the children have travel restrictions placed on them, so they cannot leave without the right parent (if sole custody has been awarded). If the parents have joint custody, then agreement of both parents is required before the children can leave the country. I guess this is not the case in Switzerland?
No, it is the case here as well.

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Re: Dad tried to sell children to their own mum

What a horrible mum! Which mum would not give everything she has for her children?!?!?



... just kidding. I just love rhetorics.
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I know that in some countries, when custody has been disputed, the children have travel restrictions placed on them, so they cannot leave without the right parent (if sole custody has been awarded). If the parents have joint custody, then agreement of both parents is required before the children can leave the country. I guess this is not the case in Switzerland?

It is the case in Switzerland but, like in many countries, either the fact that the passport is flagged isn't caught at the airport, or the non-custodial parent applies for a passport of the home country without the other parent knowing and just waves the Swiss passport and passes through the system withthe kid's home country passport at departure.

Sad story. People don't realize how difficult having kids with multiple nationalities is when things go wrong.
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Hmm, this reminds me of a fellow ef member asking about his rights for custody as a stay-at-home dad last year.

You never know.


Yeah, those stay-at-home dads are very suspicious, aren't they? And not only that, you can't b***h about how they leave you alone with the kids either. Bummer.

A proud product of pre-1994 South African education methinks.
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