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Four years ago, Peter Conti donated sperm to lesbian friends. He was promised a role in the upbringing of the child, but those promises were never met.

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I feel sorry for men to not have better right regarding their kids. When it goes well with the mother, everything is good but if trouble begin, women can make a father's life miserable.
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"Sperm donar frozen out by parents".

Does the sexuality of the players have an additional importance?
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I feel sorry for men to not have better right regarding their kids. When it goes well with the mother, everything is good but if trouble begin, women can make a father's life miserable.
I agree. But there are more than enough men who don't give a sh** about their kids and leave the family, don't even pay child support.
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I agree. But there are more than enough men who don't give a sh** about their kids and leave the family, don't even pay child support.
Yes, like the other news about the guy who kidnapped his kids and asked money to the mother to get them back....
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Re: Gay sperm donor frozen out by lesbian mums

Gay sperm donor frozen out by lesbian mums.

What does "frozen out" mean?

As a side thought, Do you think the Local cares about their reputation?
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I agree. But there are more than enough men who don't give a sh** about their kids and leave the family, don't even pay child support.
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Yes, like the other news about the guy who kidnapped his kids and asked money to the mother to get them back....
And there are moms who kill their babies. WTF does any of it have to do with a father who wants to see his child?
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I agree. But there are more than enough men who don't give a sh** about their kids and leave the family, don't even pay child support.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-16514512

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-16199260
There are more than enough women who don't give a sh** about their kids and leave to party, and even get pay child support.






http://lci.tf1.fr/france/faits-diver...e-6234750.html

Look that woman who left the baby to go to the night club!!!
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"Sperm donar frozen out by parents".

Does the sexuality of the players have an additional importance?
I would guess that one would think that as all of the players are gay they would be sympathetic to each other. Other than that it does make for a catchy headline.
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And there are moms who kill their babies. WTF does any of it have to do with a father who wants to see his child?
You forgot to pay attention of my first post.
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Re: Gay sperm donor frozen out by lesbian mums

Donor sperm is usually anonymous and frozen, but this one was probably kept warm in a turkey baster. So the headline is (Gasp!) probably untrue!
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And there are moms who kill their babies. WTF does any of it have to do with a father who wants to see his child?
*ducks for cover* You are right, please find me contrite.
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I feel sorry for men to not have better right regarding their kids. When it goes well with the mother, everything is good but if trouble begin, women can make a father's life miserable.
Also people can make a father's life miserable. Especially when some of them keep spreading stereotypes, and can seriously hurt the father's already ed up and squeezed by the woman. (Who, as you said, can make a father's life miserable)

Or when they all give assumptions on the men guiltiness, being accused of not giving a sh*t, etc...

I knew enough men in that situation, witnessed many comments/behavior. Also I know enough the relevant law to say that the balance is greatly in favor of the woman, especially in the UK.

So let's all play fair and keep the balance, as you said.
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Old 24.01.2012, 14:25
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I would guess that one would think that as all of the players are gay they would be sympathetic to each other. Other than that it does make for a catchy headline.
Eh? tEh Gays stole the rainbow. Why would 'they' be any more sympathetic than Tom Cruise, who's not a Homosexual?

Cheap Headline, though.
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You forgot to pay attention of my first post.
Fair enough, but you have "I agree but...deadbeat jerks..."

and, "yeah, like that other kidnapper jerk",

which makes it a bit confusing as it's a thread about a dad who wants to be the opposite of those things. Deadbeat dads are awful, yes, kidnappers are way more awful, yes. Nothing at all to do with a dad who wants to be involved. Which goes with your first post and now I'm lost .
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Fair enough, but you have "I agree but...deadbeat jerks..."

and, "yeah, like that other kidnapper jerk",

which makes it a bit confusing as it's a thread about a dad who want's to be the opposite of those things. Deadbeat dads are awful, yes, kidnappers are way more awful, yes. Nothing at all to do with a dad who wants to be involved. Which goes with your first post and now I'm lost .
What about the Rainbow? Did you forget to remember to understand to read my my! MY! post?
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As a side thought, Do you think the Local cares about their reputation?
No, The Local cares about advertising revenue.
Its just us suckers who think reputation matters.

Has The Local ever returned to any of the threads it started? Has it ever clarified any of its statements or corrected anything in the light of the input of others or even apologised for its tiresome bumbling incompetence.

Humility and integriity don't generate income. Therefore The Local doesn't do them.
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What about the Rainbow? Did you forget to remember to understand to read my my! MY! post?
I read it. L. Ron did a soul crack on me before I could type a reply. Tom who?
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Also people can make a father's life miserable. Especially when some of them keep spreading stereotypes, and can seriously hurt the father's already ed up and squeezed by the woman. (Who, as you said, can make a father's life miserable)

Or when they all give assumptions on the men guiltiness, being accused of not giving a sh*t, etc...

I knew enough men in that situation, witnessed many comments/behavior. Also I know enough the relevant law to say that the balance is greatly in favor of the woman, especially in the UK.

So let's all play fair and keep the balance, as you said.
I saw first hand of what a mother can do to a father. And believe me, I would never ever do what has been done.

We talk about great dads, those who DO want to be involve, who do want to be part of a child's life. Who takes great care of the child.

I agree with you totally. It is easier to make a father looks bad and not just from the mother. Sometimes (often) the justice system contribute to it.

In this case, the guy wants to be involve, he should have the right. It is not a anonymous sperm donor, but someone who accept to do it in exchange if being part of his son's life.
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I like EF. I think it is intelligent and a "cut above" most other online forums. I think the conversation is pretty smart and I'm pleased with myself for being (I hope) a solid part of it.

Then I read the journalism of the owners and it makes me feel a bit grubby and cast in the same mold as Daily Mail readers.

Mr Local - do you really think that this level of journalism matches the demographic of (largely) expats in Switzerland? I think you badly misjudge your audience
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