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Dementiaville, Switzerlands newest village

A 1950s style village is being built to care for elderly patients suffering from dementia.

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Its detractors may end up dubbing it "Dementiaville", but Switzerland is brushing aside a debate raging among geriatric-care experts with plans to build a mock-1950s village catering exclusively for elderly sufferers of Alzheimer's and other debilitating mental illnesses. The newly approved €20m (Ł17m) housing project is to be built next to the Swiss village of Wiedlisbach near Bern and will provide sheltered accommodation and care for 150 elderly dementia patients in 23 purpose-built 1950s-style houses. The homes will be deliberately designed to recreate the atmosphere of times past.
I reckon there's more than a few people without dementia who think they would be happier in a 1950s swiss village.

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Old 27.01.2012, 14:46
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I reckon there's more than a few people without dementia who think they would be happier in a 1950s swiss village.
How about a 1950s style theme park?

With 1950s prices?
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Old 27.01.2012, 14:50
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1950's clothes and music! Yay!
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Old 27.01.2012, 14:54
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Re: Dementiaville, Switzerlands newest village

There was a TV programme a year or so ago where several elderly well known people were put into a house where everything was from the 1970's (I think). None of them had dementia, but at the end of the experiment all had improved physically and in their general outlook on life.

I think in theory this village is a good idea, many dementia sufferers cannot remember their recent past, but can recall vividly things from their younger days. Maybe living 'in the past' could actually help them feel less confused and anxious.

In my previous life, I often worked with people with various forms and stages of dementia and found that if they talked about things which didn't seem to make any sense (I remember one lady always told me she was getting married the next day every time I visited her), it was better to go along with what they were saying rather than contradicting them, which would confuse them even more.

This village sounds a better life than living in a nursing home, sitting staring into space all day. I would imagine though that it wouldn't be suitable for anyone, the residents would have to be carefully selected.
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Old 27.01.2012, 14:55
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Wow. 1.2 million CHF/house
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Old 27.01.2012, 15:46
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Re: Dementiaville, Switzerlands newest village

If the houses have 1950's prices, I may want to start being very forgetful
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Old 27.01.2012, 20:43
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Re: Dementiaville, Switzerlands newest village

Switzerland's own Haight-Ashbury !!
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A 1950s style village is being built to care for elderly patients suffering from dementia.

I reckon there's more than a few people without dementia who think they would be happier in a 1950s swiss village.

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Sorry but you ought to make your mind UP. I got lectured on this topic in 2006 by a senior doctor at the Waidspital. Dementia and Alzheimer are both diseases BUT while Alzheimer changes the character and is rather volatile, Dementia does NOT change the character of the person and is fairly "slow".

The mother of a colleague did have Alzheimer, while my mother some years later had dementia. I while finding that dementia deplorable indeed, realized that I had to take the point that it then was "only/just" dementia as a grace of God.

I between November 07 and May/June 08 had the opportunity to make the acquaintance of some "mildly" dementia ridden people who however still were interesting persons. My beloved and admired Godfather at his end had Parkinson's. Horrible, true, but when I visited him in Geneva just two months before his end, he still was the highly intelligent and sensible and insightful man he always has been. He still spoke German, French, English, Italian and Hungarian fluently as ever. And so, in comparison to Alzheimer, also a Grace of God.

So, you have to see the differences.

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How about a 1950s style theme park?

With 1950s prices?
Alright about the prices, BUT what about
- no self-service except Migros wherever existing
- fruit limited to banana, lemons and oranges
- in "normal" places icecream limited to chocolate/vanilla
- photocopiers not yet in evidence
- phones still with the dials


I am quite happy not to be there again, whenever I of course have fond memories of that decade

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Old 28.01.2012, 07:06
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Re: Dementiaville, Switzerlands newest village

I love the idea. So when I am old one day, I want to live in a 90s village watching Star Trek TNG on large CRTs, listen to Nirvana...
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Old 28.01.2012, 09:49
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watching Star Trek TNG on large CRTs
.... because Deanna Troi doesn't look nearly as good in HD.

Actually, a small CRT might be sufficient.
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1950's clothes and music! Yay!
i'm in

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Old 28.01.2012, 10:26
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How about a 1950s style theme park?
Really?



Hmmm...

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..BUT what about
- no self-service except Migros wherever existing
- fruit limited to banana, lemons and oranges
- in "normal" places icecream limited to chocolate/vanilla
- photocopiers not yet in evidence
- phones still with the dials
How about some apples on the trees, food tickets for the rest and curfew with gun to your head if you don't run back into the house. You guys were spoilled rotten.

Not sure if I would like to live in a protected nursing home like this, nor have folks there..Mixing with normal life ensures some control over how these patients get treated. Seclusion makes the staff do weird things sometimes.

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Old 28.01.2012, 11:16
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How about some apples on the trees, food tickets for the rest and curfew with gun to your head if you don't run back into the house. You guys were spoilled rotten.
You remind me of Zonen-Gaby and her first banana... (a legendary cover of a Western German satire magazine after the iron curtain fell)

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Old 28.01.2012, 11:25
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You remind me of Zonen-Gaby and her first banana... (a legendary cover of a Western German satire magazine after the iron curtain fell)

Hahahah, it's true. Made me laugh, though I don't want to in a dementia thread

We had these hour long lines a few times a month for bananas. And we wouldn't still get it since the shop wench would sell them to her buddies. We did have Cuban oranges, though, inedible, some nursing home folks died of colics after eating the membranes, which, sorry for the morbidity, brings us back to the topic.
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Old 28.01.2012, 13:16
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i'm in

Dementia definition: when you see this picture you'll say WOOOW great "Pulp Fiction" movie scene!
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If the houses have 1950's prices, I may want to start being very forgetful
I suspect the prices in CH in 1950 were not that far away from todays 'rediculous' prices, I would love to be proved wrong.......

If we look at cars, washing machines & TV's they will be a hell of a lot cheaper today. Whats a 12 inch black & white TV today?
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Old 29.01.2012, 00:52
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Nicotine against early dementia...interesting.

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I suspect the prices in CH in 1950 were not that far away from todays 'rediculous' prices, I would love to be proved wrong.......

If we look at cars, washing machines & TV's they will be a hell of a lot cheaper today. Whats a 12 inch black & white TV today?
prices in the 1950ies and 60ies were most exceedingly high. With no discounters around except Migros and EPA, furniture only available at astronomic prices, outside Migros and EPA no self-service, when in a restaurant you HAD to pay 12,5% "service" in addition to the price.
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Re: Dementiaville, Switzerlands newest village

Hang on, I`ve seen this show before-

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Really?
How about some apples on the trees, food tickets for the rest and curfew with gun to your head if you don't run back into the house. You guys were spoilled rotten.
Is there something about your childhood you're not telling us?
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