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Old 14.02.2012, 21:03
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(not for you, for your staff).
No idea, as I have no staff (but I am one of the staff).

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...rich people's problems... right?
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Old 14.02.2012, 21:04
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Re: 6 weeks holiday for Switzerland?!?

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Honestly I used to work in the UK and had a far better work-life balance and more money at the end of the month....

You are joking right!!!! or were you in the UK many years ago? The cost of living in the UK is ridiculous now, and wages have hardly moved in the past 5 years.
My work-life balance is far better now, although a shift worker I now do a 40 hour week for more than double the wage I got in the UK, where I might add, as a shift worker there I had to keep doing overtime to make ends meet and frequently worked a 60 > 72 hour week.
Give me Switzerland over the UK anyday.
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Old 14.02.2012, 21:05
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...rich people's problems... right?
Huh, what are you on about?

Staff = employees.

Of which I am one (and not in management, etc., though we have no management, nor HR).

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Old 14.02.2012, 21:10
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Re: 6 weeks holiday for Switzerland?!?

Why in the hell aren't they going for 5 weeks across the board ???

Seems more beneficial to the majority I think. In construction we get 5 weeks and it is for me just the right amount.

Mrs C however gets just 4 weeks, meaning I have to meet up with mates over in London without her....

This is a great stress on my liver and cholesterol levels...

5 weeks holidays would probably see me living 10 years more in the end...
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Old 14.02.2012, 21:15
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Why in the hell aren't they going for 5 weeks across the board ???
I've always had 5 weeks (in Switzerland, certainly not in the US), but that was because that's what my first (Swiss) employer gave me, and later because that's what I asked for when I moved down here 22 years ago.

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Old 14.02.2012, 23:48
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Re: 6 weeks holiday for Switzerland?!?

shiesh, you guys had fun in the sandpit today didn't you?

I can still feel the heat from those angry fingers tap-tap-tapping away on your iposhs

Oh, to appreciate the little things in life.. like having a paid job, and paid vacation. But I guess thats another thread.
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Old 15.02.2012, 00:46
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I'm voting "no" too. I doubt this referandum will pass. It would take a toll on the present economy and the Swiss are too worried about that to make any frivilous changes at the momennt.
I suspect people will end up with less pay as a result, rather like reduced hours working. In the end there is no free lunch!
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Old 15.02.2012, 13:59
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Why in the hell aren't they going for 5 weeks across the board ???

Seems more beneficial to the majority I think. In construction we get 5 weeks and it is for me just the right amount.

Mrs C however gets just 4 weeks, meaning I have to meet up with mates over in London without her....

This is a great stress on my liver and cholesterol levels...

5 weeks holidays would probably see me living 10 years more in the end...
I'd be happy with 5 weeks!
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Old 15.02.2012, 14:06
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I'd be happy with 5 weeks!
We actually get 5 weeks vacation, plus the week between Xmas and New Year (not counted as vacation).
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Old 15.02.2012, 14:17
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"Should workers enjoy six weeks' holiday a year, does the number of holiday homes need to be limited, and should there be a fixed price agreement for books?

Voters have the final say on these and two other issues on March 11 - the first round of nationwide votes of 2012."

I think we all deserve 6 weeks holiday per year, don't you?? If you are Swiss, good time to vote! If you are not Swiss, please encourage your Swiss friends to vote!
I do believe that we are working "ourselves to death", the future health costs due to e.g. burn-out will be unbearable. So this is a definately a step in the right direction, next step will be to reduce work time...lets say to 6 hours / day, I rather spend more time with my family then my co-workers, who doesn't?

I would like to have as much vacation as they have in school =)

many years ago it was the same, but then they talked about "why vacation at all"...why only work 5 days / week...etc...

Working efficiently is the key word, not the amout of time...but we all know that don't we?
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Old 15.02.2012, 14:21
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Six weeks has absolutely no chance of getting passed in Switzerland....
yes I know, isn't scary? more free time - HELL NO!!!
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Old 15.02.2012, 14:25
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How can there not be an added financial burden??? if you have 26 staff all getting an extra 2 weeks holiday, thats a years worth of production/service lost. As an individual it may not look too bad, but you have to multiply that by the number of staff.
Of course there is a financial burden!!!
work more efficient...plan better etc....there are tons of methods to use your time which you have available...it's just lazy companies who don't see this...and in the end they have to pay huge buck-load of money due to stressed out people...it's crazy-simple!!!!
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Old 15.02.2012, 14:34
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Re: 6 weeks holiday for Switzerland?!?

I'm rather envious of supporters of this initiative, who must have very secure jobs in stable industries.

Unfortunatley, many in of our circle of friends are rather more worried that they will soon have the opportunity to take quite a bit more than six weeks' holiday...

...as their companies are under intense cost pressure. Any job that can be done outside Switzerland is now fair game to move to lower cost countries.

I'd be just a tad hesitant to do anything that would make the Swiss labor market any less competitive than it already is...
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Old 15.02.2012, 14:43
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Re: 6 weeks holiday for Switzerland?!?

It won't make any difference to me if this goes through. Instead of having 2 weeks holiday left over at the end of the year, I'll have 4 weeks left over.
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Re: 6 weeks holiday for Switzerland?!?

Those that worry about the how Swiss employers might react to 2 weeks extra holiday might be right.

In my last job (in a small company) the boss preferred not to employ Swiss guys based purely on the fact that they would be away for military service a few weeks a year.

Also for us foreigners that don't have to do military service the 4 weeks feels a lot more harsh. Swiss guys get more of a break than us foreigners anyway (yes I know you guys just play drücklikashter rather than actually play soldiers).

I will ask my Swiss wife to vote yes for sure.
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Re: 6 weeks holiday for Switzerland?!?

Originally was 1 week and then naturally everybody was shocked at the thought of two. Its the same neurosis in thinking now. People simply cannot accommodate themselves to changes. And they don't know how to deal with more free time. It makes people nervous.


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"Should workers enjoy six weeks' holiday a year, does the number of holiday homes need to be limited, and should there be a fixed price agreement for books?

Voters have the final say on these and two other issues on March 11 - the first round of nationwide votes of 2012."

I think we all deserve 6 weeks holiday per year, don't you?? If you are Swiss, good time to vote! If you are not Swiss, please encourage your Swiss friends to vote!
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Old 15.02.2012, 17:54
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Originally was 1 week and then naturally everybody was shocked at the thought of two. Its the same neurosis in thinking now. People simply cannot accommodate themselves to changes. And they don't know how to deal with more free time. It makes people nervous.
Yeah right it could not be the thought of having to cover another full-time position for the additional one or two weeks per year.

Must be nice to have a TEAM (Toll, Ein Anderer Machts) like that, although that could be just my jealousy speaking up
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Old 15.02.2012, 18:00
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I think they should have 3 options. No change, 1 week extra, 2 weeks extra.

Then voters get what they voted for - keeps everyone happy!
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Re: 6 weeks holiday for Switzerland?!?

Yes. And was it any different when they went from 1 to 2 weeks or from 2 weeks to four. Profit motive thats all.

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Yeah right it could not be the thought of having to cover another full-time position for the additional one or two weeks per year.

Must be nice to have a TEAM (Toll, Ein Anderer Machts) like that, although that could be just my jealousy speaking up
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Old 15.02.2012, 18:08
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Yes. And was it any different when they went from 1 to 2 weeks or from 2 weeks to four. Profit motive thats all.
Sorry mate, I wouldn't know - I'm not THAT old yet...
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