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My personal complaint is with the rule that many apartment blocks seem to have, including mine, that the outside door must be kept double locked ie: cannot be opened from the inside without using a key.

This doesn't seem to be a very safe practice to me, when most buildings don't have an alternative emergency exit. I suppose the risk of being burgled is higher than the risk of a sudden nighttime fire or other need for evacutaion, but I prefer to not have that door double locked, and take my chances with the potential burglars.
Some modern apartments have a door knob on the inside which you turn twice to double lock so a key is only needed when you come in from outside.
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Some modern apartments have a door knob on the inside which you turn twice to double lock so a key is only needed when you come in from outside.
The Landlords arguement against that is, "All the burglar needs to do is bereak a hole in the glass, put a hand through and unlock the door." A well reinforced glass, or nonglass, door perhaps?
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Old 28.02.2012, 11:17
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The Landlords arguement against that is, "All the burglar needs to do is bereak a hole in the glass, put a hand through and unlock the door." A well reinforced glass, or nonglass, door perhaps?

Good point. I suppose the argument is that a burglar is more likely to try and force a lock than break glass and it's better to have a door that's easier to open in the event of a fire.

I was wondering whether new installations (where the entrance door is marked as a fire exit) are allowed to have a lock that can not be opened from the inside without a key?
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Old 28.02.2012, 15:20
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The Landlords arguement against that is, "All the burglar needs to do is bereak a hole in the glass, put a hand through and unlock the door." A well reinforced glass, or nonglass, door perhaps?
If they'd done that in my case, maybe the landlord - who was in the building at the time in his office on the ground floor - would have heard something and come out.

However, as the thieves appear to have been two young women, apart from trying to chat them up I doubt he would have done anything else ...
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I was wondering whether new installations (where the entrance door is marked as a fire exit) are allowed to have a lock that can not be opened from the inside without a key?
I have no idea as to the Swiss regulations on this, but that is the case in some other countries. If it is Swiss law, there are definitely landlords who are not abiding by the rule.
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Old 28.02.2012, 15:50
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I have no idea as to the Swiss regulations on this, but that is the case in some other countries. If it is Swiss law, there are definitely landlords who are not abiding by the rule.
I wondered whether it was for new builds only.
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Old 29.02.2012, 11:05
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When I first moved to Switzerland, I used to hear about the crime committed by foreigners - "The Turks," usually being blamed. Since 2008, it seems that the Romanians are being blamed instead, along with the Roma from anywhere.

I am pleased that people from Turkey are no longer being blamed for everything, but do we really have to offer so many smug generalisations, and verbal prejudices, about any one nationality or cultural group?
Well, who wouldn't agree? In Western Europe, there are many people who see a criminal behind every "Eastern European-looking" guy. Such generalisations are highly unfair. But it's a big difference whether someone says "all Eastern Europeans are criminals", or simply points out that serial burglaries in Switzerland are very often committed by Eastern European gangs. Unless one would argue the latter isn't based on experienced data, for which I see no reason atm.

And one does not have to believe in racist prejudices to see why this appears to be self-evident. Going on a burglary spree is neither easy money nor very lucrative, at least not for a low-ranking member of such a group. They drive through Europe in bitterly cold winter, they sleep in the car or in improvised camps in the woods, they have to deliver the stolen goods to their bosses and receive very little money in their own pockets, they're always at risk to get caught and if so, they will be immediately replaced, without anyone shedding a tear. It needs a poverty-stricken environment where you can regularly recruit people willing to take this up. One does not have to believe that "being dishonest is part of the Romanian culture" or "theft lies within the blood Romanian people" to not be surprised, that by percentage you probably find far more people for such expeditions in a slum in Bucharest than in housing projects in Stockholm or working-class quarters in Dietikon.
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Old 29.02.2012, 11:29
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Well, who wouldn't agree? In Western Europe, there are many people who see a criminal behind every "Eastern European-looking" guy. Such generalisations are highly unfair. But it's a big difference whether someone says "all Eastern Europeans are criminals", or simply points out that serial burglaries in Switzerland are very often committed by Eastern European gangs. Unless one would argue the latter isn't based on experienced data, for which I see no reason atm.

And one does not have to believe in racist prejudices to see why this appears to be self-evident. Going on a burglary spree is neither easy money nor very lucrative, at least not for a low-ranking member of such a group. They drive through Europe in bitterly cold winter, they sleep in the car or in improvised camps in the woods, they have to deliver the stolen goods to their bosses and receive very little money in their own pockets, they're always at risk to get caught and if so, they will be immediately replaced, without anyone shedding a tear. It needs a poverty-stricken environment where you can regularly recruit people willing to take this up. One does not have to believe that "being dishonest is part of the Romanian culture" or "theft lies within the blood Romanian people" to not be surprised, that by percentage you probably find far more people for such expeditions in a slum in Bucharest than in housing projects in Stockholm or working-class quarters in Dietikon.
Poverty-stricken environment, just to quote you, as everything is relative and that kind of "poverty" could be a bliss in some parts of the world, is not a common place only in Romania or Bulgaria - the "famous" EU-2, towards are heading all sorts of prejudices and stereotypes. What about the rest of the Eastern European countries, the Balkans?
Unless you can clearly show me by evidence that the last wave of burglaries in Basel was comitted by Romanian burglars and only by them, I can safely claim that all this talking is all about your prejudices at best.. And the anti-Romanian propaganda I more and more often encounter lately.
By the way, have you ever been to Romania? Our dear Biff has been there, he talked about it in one of his posts. He is still well and alive.
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Old 29.02.2012, 11:46
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Unless you can clearly show me by evidence that donkeys like to wear pink socks, I can safely claim that Elvis sells ice cream at the motorway service area in Wurenlos. I was once in Wetzikon but bought no shoes.
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Unless you can clearly show me by evidence that donkeys like to wear pink socks, I can safely claim that Elvis sells ice cream at the motorway service area in Wurenlos. I was once in Wetzikon but bought no shoes.
Rational opinions can be argued only with facts, numbers, and you don't have any. You know what, there is a moment when one should know a disscusion has reached a dead end, beyond of it everything becomes futile.
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I think the people who broke into my apartment were Nazis.
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Probably black, Eastern European Nazis at that.
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a disscusion has reached a dead end, beyond of it everything becomes futile.
And this often happens when someone attacks a straw man. E. g. demanding evidence for claims no one made. Maybe you take a deep breath and read the thread again.
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Big thumbs up to Generali Insurance. They wanted some receipts, which I sent. They didn't need any proof for the cash, but it was probably quite a small amount compared to what the average Swiss person would have lying around.

They deducted 200Fr (my excess) and are paying the rest, no further questions asked.

I got Generali despite them being around 1/3 more expensive than the cheapest Comapris quote (although there is a 1/3 first year discount, coincidentally enough) as a colleague of mine has their insurance and when their young son broke a glass panel in the communal lift, Generali paid up immediately with no deductions. And did the same when they moved out and the landlord pointed to some minor damage.
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I'm glad they didn't give you any hassle. The last thing you want after an experience like that.

Have you gone on a shopping spree?
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I'm glad they didn't give you any hassle. The last thing you want after an experience like that.

Have you gone on a shopping spree?
Not actually got the money yet - just signed to say I'm happy with the amount they are going to pay (no reason not to be - it includes everything). Won't exactly be a shopping spree, just replacing what I had before and trying to find somewhere safer to store them
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By the way, have you ever been to Romania? Our dear Biff has been there, he talked about it in one of his posts. He is still well and alive.
Her! She!!!!
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Bloody hell, they stole your penis!!
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Sorry to hear that it happened to you - but thanks a lot for the warning. I had this mad impression that Basel is one of the safest places in Europe, given that bikes are always left in the streets and shops always leave their stock outside during the day when they don't have any CCTV cameras here!!

I will make sure I am move vigilant now.

Hope you make a successful claim on your insurance.
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OH NO:::::::have they let some south african people N/E loose in Basel
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