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At least four suspected members of Italy's major mafia organisations are thoughts to be resident in Switzerland.

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I learned from "20 Minuten" that US Persons are prohibited from doing business with the Camorra mafia. Fortunately, US Persons may still do business with other Italian mafia groups such as Ndrangheta, Cosa Nostra, and Sacra Corona Unita.

As all Italian mafia members seem to wear sunglasses and look alike, how can a US Person tell which are Camorra and which are members of other mafia groups? I searched the internet but couldn't find a Camorra membership list? I was thinking to write the Camorra but, heck, the US Treasury's "List of Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons" only lists the Camorra's address as Naples, Campagnia, Italy. Strike that idea.

I was thinking to ask the guy who runs the local gelateria whether he is a member of the Camorra but somehow that might not be such a good idea. To be safe and not inadvertently do business with the Camorra, I suppose US Persons should just avoid all Italian-run gelaterias, trattorias, pizzerias and so on. No more pizzas for US Persons, best to switch to kebabs.

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/sto...r-USA-28894848
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At least four suspected members of Italy's major mafia organisations are thoughts to be resident in Switzerland.

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Shoot!

They're on to me already!

And I thought the anonymity of doing business through this forum was fool-proof.

Oh well!

Time to move my bank accounts to Glasgow.
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Shoot!

They're on to me already!

And I thought the anonymity of doing business through this forum was fool-proof.

Oh well!

Time to move my bank accounts to Glasgow.
Can't be cooincidence that your join date is March 2012, same as this thread.
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Can't be cooincidence that your join date is March 2012, same as this thread.
In some Swiss newspapers there was also something about Mafia and its years long businesses in CH, quite recently. Same old, same old.
This is old, but it sums up the Mafia in Switzerland thing pretty well.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/authorit...mafia/32671592
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Re: Mafia members moving to Switzerland

It seems that the US Navy sometimes rents homes in Naples from the Camorra. Of course, that shouldn't make US Persons any less vigilant in determining who their gelato vendor really is:

"Italian police ask Navy for records to 6 Naples homes
Court-order could be tied to mafia probe

By Lisa M. Novak Stars and Stripes

NAPLES, Italy — Naples’ anti-mafia squad — backed by the finance police — paid a surprise visit late last month to the U.S. Navy’s housing office with a court order for the records for six off-base homes leased to U.S. personnel.
For years, the anti-mafia squad and the Guardia di Finanza have been investigating homes reportedly owned by Naples’ Camorra mafia crime families, Italian officials said.
Then in September, Italian authorities sequestered 40 homes in the Camorra strongholds of Casal di Principe and San Cipriano d’Aversa and placed them on a three-year "block" for the collection of rent, according to the Naples’ daily newspaper Il Mattino. Six of the 40 homes sequestered were leased by U.S. personnel, and it was those six homes that were listed in the court order, according to Navy spokesman Lt. Paul Macapagal.
Jalynn Pontes and her husband, Petty Officer 2nd Class Rafael Flores, live in another home that was raided, but not sequestered, that day.
Pontes said they returned from work that day to find a metal shutter broken on the front door of their Casal di Principe home. The lights were on, and their small dog, Valentino, was hiding."

http://www.stripes.com/news/italian-...-homes-1.86258
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I learned from "20 Minuten" that US Persons are prohibited from doing business with the Camorra mafia. Fortunately, US Persons may still do business with other Italian mafia groups such as Ndrangheta, Cosa Nostra, and Sacra Corona Unita.
I thought as far as the Mafia was concerned, anybody's money was good. This has something to do with FATCA, right?
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Re: Mafia members moving to Switzerland

I don't know why this should be such big news. As I've experienced things here the Swiss mafia seem to be the ones running Kanton Schwyz - the italian accent.
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Can't be cooincidence that your join date is March 2012, same as this thread.
But join dates can be misleading.
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But join dates can be misleading.

So can dodgy looks guys wearing black suits, no ties alighting from limousines and carrying violin cases.
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I don't know why this should be such big news. As I've experienced things here the Swiss mafia seem to be the ones running Kanton Schwyz - the italian accent.
Big news is not, but I am always surprised at how lightly this problem is taken by most people...wonder why. Is mass media good business for Mafia, also?
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100000s of small businesses have been set up for at least half a century all over the world to facilitate money movement...
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At least four suspected members of Italy's major mafia organisations are thoughts to be resident in Switzerland.

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100'000s of Italians,. mainly from the South, in the 1950ies and 60ies immigrated into Switzerland, and many of them became CH citizens. Some of them of course may have been Mafia members and more have Mafiosi among their relatives


I simply expect all the ex-Siciliani and ex-Calabresi to respect the law and to do their duties. Lots of their Secondos and Tricondos have done and do Military Service here


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Add to this that also FIAT FINANZA and other sections of the upper side of Italy have residence in Switzerland ... the linkage is centuries old.

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The biggest Mafia in CH are multinationals and Commodity Traders like Nestle, Glencore, Novartis, mercuria, ameropa, roche...and Not to forget the US counterparts such as Coca Cola, JP Morgan, monsanto and others. Funny enough These Crooks are being protected by Police when Holding their annual get together in Davos. Instead the Media which is Part of this crooked System Makes us believe that some harmless chubby italians are the biggest Threat around...don't believe everything you read...

By the Way what Happened to the Investigation of the murdered UK/iraqi Family im Annecy almost 2 years ago...Good Night and good luck
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It seems that the US Navy sometimes rents homes in Naples from the Camorra. Of course, that shouldn't make US Persons any less vigilant in determining who their gelato vendor really is:

"Italian police ask Navy for records to 6 Naples homes
Court-order could be tied to mafia probe

By Lisa M. Novak Stars and Stripes

NAPLES, Italy — Naples’ anti-mafia squad — backed by the finance police — paid a surprise visit late last month to the U.S. Navy’s housing office with a court order for the records for six off-base homes leased to U.S. personnel.
For years, the anti-mafia squad and the Guardia di Finanza have been investigating homes reportedly owned by Naples’ Camorra mafia crime families, Italian officials said.
Then in September, Italian authorities sequestered 40 homes in the Camorra strongholds of Casal di Principe and San Cipriano d’Aversa and placed them on a three-year "block" for the collection of rent, according to the Naples’ daily newspaper Il Mattino. Six of the 40 homes sequestered were leased by U.S. personnel, and it was those six homes that were listed in the court order, according to Navy spokesman Lt. Paul Macapagal.
Jalynn Pontes and her husband, Petty Officer 2nd Class Rafael Flores, live in another home that was raided, but not sequestered, that day.
Pontes said they returned from work that day to find a metal shutter broken on the front door of their Casal di Principe home. The lights were on, and their small dog, Valentino, was hiding."

http://www.stripes.com/news/italian-...-homes-1.86258
About "their small dog, Valentino, was hiding." Somehow reminds me of the joke about "How do you know a Frenchman visited you?*. Apologies to the French and any other distressed minorities.
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The biggest Mafia in CH are multinationals and Commodity Traders like Nestle, Glencore, Novartis, mercuria, ameropa, roche...and Not to forget the US counterparts such as Coca Cola, JP Morgan, monsanto and others. Funny enough These Crooks are being protected by Police when Holding their annual get together in Davos. Instead the Media which is Part of this crooked System Makes us believe that some harmless chubby italians are the biggest Threat around...don't believe everything you read...

By the Way what Happened to the Investigation of the murdered UK/iraqi Family im Annecy almost 2 years ago...Good Night and good luck

-- Annecy is NOT (yet) in Switzerland
-- you can accuse big corporations of mafia-like methods, but this is not the topic here
-- the organisations mentioned are NOT harmless at all
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