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Re: U.S. politician Michele Bachmann becomes Swiss

I can't wait until they start trolling her about her Swiss bank accounts...

I'm very irked that I have busted my *** trying to "integrate", I speak one national language fluently, going to night classes to learn the other one I need to speak, joining associations, kissing up to the mayor when I see him etc etc etc AND I have to wait until 2017...

and this hateful, ignorant woman with no real ties to Switzerland has the red passport because of her baby daddy's grandparents' ethnicity or something. Yes I'm jealous AND bitter. Oh the irony for the woman who said that we were going to close the US Embassy in Iran (when in fact it is the Swiss who handle US affairs there).

I can't remember who in the SVP (was it Toni Brunner?) said something about how the Tea Partiers were even too right wing for them. Seriously. I must find it on youtube.
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Old 09.05.2012, 22:24
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Re: U.S. politician Michele Bachmann becomes Swiss

Um... just because Switzerland isn't part of the EU doesn't mean it's not still in Europe. And compared to the US, it is tiny.

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Bachmann (R-Minn.) recently became a citizen of Switzerland, making her eligible to run for office in the tiny European nation

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Does not start good as a Swiss Citizen...
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I can never wrap my mind around the fact that an allegedly first world country like USA can have so many backward minded people.
A proper measure would be the rate of backward-mindedness (e.g. X per 100,000 people), not the absolute number but as an educated citizen of the world you knew that, right? Is there some place where one can find the comparative rates of backward-mindedness? I'm afraid I find it a bit elusive.
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Re: U.S. politician Michele Bachmann becomes Swiss

Does anyone know if her husband was born a duel citizen ? As once someone told me if you take the oath to become American you have to give up your previous citizenship, or did I get told wrong? Seems it has to do with the I take allegiance to the American flag and no other. Also didn't she have to at least live in Switzerland for so many years to acquire one her? Just wondering as it doesn't make sense to me. Of course I have met people here who have 5 passports for 5 countries so who can be sure. I did talk to a teacher here who bragged her and her husband both have U.S. citizenship's, they got it while he worked in the U.S. for 10 years, I asked her didn't you have to give up your Swiss? She told me yes but they lied.. plain and simple to my face.. so have always wondered since then?
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The article claims that Michele Bachmann "automatically" acquired Swiss citizenship when her husband did. Surely that would be a decision made by an individual, not forced upon one automatically?


What a bizarre non-sequitur. Do you have personal knowledge of Marcus Bachmann's sexuality that qualifies you to make that statement?

Anyway, I can't see her going too far in Swiss politics until she learns to spell her first name correctly.
The parents of Marcus Bachmann emigrated from Switzerland to the USA. So that he basically is a born Swiss. I do not believe that SHE was around when he was born
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Does anyone know if her husband was born a duel citizen ? As once someone told me if you take the oath to become American you have to give up your previous citizenship, or did I get told wrong? Seems it has to do with the I take allegiance to the American flag and no other. Also didn't she have to at least live in Switzerland for so many years to acquire one her? Just wondering as it doesn't make sense to me. Of course I have met people here who have 5 passports for 5 countries so who can be sure. I did talk to a teacher here who bragged her and her husband both have U.S. citizenship's, they got it while he worked in the U.S. for 10 years, I asked her didn't you have to give up your Swiss? She told me yes but they lied.. plain and simple to my face.. so have always wondered since then?
There's no issue with having dual citizenship as a US citizen, and you don't to having to give up our prior citizenship once taking the oath, judging by all the naturalized US citizens I know who still have their original passports as well.
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Fact is, I am born and bred Swiss- and when we came here 3 years ago (I moved to UK aged 19 and got married to a Brit) having bought a house here, living here and married for 38 years- my OH still had to go through the whole process, a full application, references, interview, etc, before getting Swiss nationality. Why on earth should she just get it de facto without the proper process. Money?

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Sorry I think we have a misunderstood here...
I meant to underline "european nation"... Switzerland is not part of the European Union!... So I don't think we can call it "european"-

Hm...
Unless it was more of a geographical reference?
Switzerland is full member of
EFTA -- European Free Trade Association
Council of Europe
ECAC -_- European Civil Aviation Conference
EPU -- European Postal Union
EBU -- European Broadcasting Union
Schengen-agreement-zone
Dublin-agreement-zone
and countless other organisations
and is possibly one of the best linked up and integrated
European countries
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while the E.U. is NOT "Europe" but just an organisation in Europe

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If Palin follows Bachmann, it will make it more palatable when I have to move back to the States Now, who else can we convince to take up residence in Switzerland...
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Mrs Bachmann would be more entertaining than Tony Brunner and less aging then the Ayatollah from Herrliberg
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and Mrs Palin when in Switzerland no longer could speak about seeing Siberia from her frontdoor
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Will Sarah Palin be next?

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Re: U.S. politician Michele Bachmann becomes Swiss

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Fact is, I am born and bred Swiss- and when we came here 3 years ago, having bought a house here, living here and married for 38 years- my OH still had to go through the whole process, a full application, references, interview, etc, before getting Swiss nationality. Why on earth should she just get it de facto without the proper process. Money?
That is because of the old (stupid) citizenship act which automatically gave Swiss citizenship to women marrying Swiss men, but not vice-versa.

In general: As much as I dislike the dramatic chipmunk, there is nothing fishy about her getting Swiss citizenship. Her husband had the right to claim Swiss citizenship as a child of Swiss parents. All he had to do was register. And as they married prior to the changes in the naturalization act, all she (they) had to do was to register their mariage.
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Switzerland is full member of
EFTA -- European Free Trade Association
Council of Europe
ECAC -_- European Civil Aviation Conference
EPU -- European Postal Union
EBU -- European Broadcasting Union
Schengen-agreement-zone
Dublin-agreement-zone
and countless other organisations
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while the E.U. is NOT "Europe" but just an organisation in Europe


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Mrs Bachmann would be more entertaining than Tony Brunner and less aging then the Ayatollah from Herrliberg
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and Mrs Palin when in Switzerland no longer could speak about seeing Siberia from her frontdoor
But Thurgau which is the same thing

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I can't wait until they start trolling her about her Swiss bank accounts...

I'm very irked that I have busted my *** trying to "integrate", I speak one national language fluently, going to night classes to learn the other one I need to speak, joining associations, kissing up to the mayor when I see him etc etc etc AND I have to wait until 2017...
If I were you, I'd rather wait than being married to Marcus Bachmann (or in my case, Michelle).
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That is because of the old (stupid) citizenship act which automatically gave Swiss citizenship to women marrying Swiss men, but not vice-versa.
So how would it work then, Swiss men carrying women?
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So how would it work then, Swiss men carrying women?
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But Turgau which is the same thing
From many places in Thurgau you indeed can see Baden-Württemberg.... but B-W is NOT Siberia


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And, to top it off, women are not voted to the Bundesrat because of their MILF aura...
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Does anyone know if her husband was born a duel citizen ? As once someone told me if you take the oath to become American you have to give up your previous citizenship, or did I get told wrong? Seems it has to do with the I take allegiance to the American flag and no other. Also didn't she have to at least live in Switzerland for so many years to acquire one her? Just wondering as it doesn't make sense to me. Of course I have met people here who have 5 passports for 5 countries so who can be sure. I did talk to a teacher here who bragged her and her husband both have U.S. citizenship's, they got it while he worked in the U.S. for 10 years, I asked her didn't you have to give up your Swiss? She told me yes but they lied.. plain and simple to my face.. so have always wondered since then?
the US only recognizes US citizenship but you do not have to give up your other citizenship(s).

HOWEVER... for someone like Michelle Bachman who aspires to be a federal politician and maybe one day President of the United States, they will do a background investigation -- super über top secret. And they will ask her about her loyalty to the United States.

Now that she has a Swiss citizenship, her loyalty to the US will be drawn into question, particularly as a high-profile politician. It's something that was optional for her to pursue, and during her presidential campaign no less. Bad move on her part politically.
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Bad move on her part politically.
Bad for her, great for everyone else!!!!
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Does anyone know if her husband was born a duel citizen ? As once someone told me if you take the oath to become American you have to give up your previous citizenship, or did I get told wrong?
He was born in the US, so automatically a US citizen, no oath involved.
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No, you just have to be married six years.
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I did talk to a teacher here who bragged her and her husband both have U.S. citizenship's, they got it while he worked in the U.S. for 10 years, I asked her didn't you have to give up your Swiss? She told me yes but they lied.. plain and simple to my face.. so have always wondered since then?
I was told that you can't give up your Swiss citizenship, even if you tell the US you are giving it up, which is probably what they did. Tom
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