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Old 28.07.2012, 19:41
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The rendition of God Save the Queen by death children was so moving.
Damn, I missed the Zombie Apocalypse.
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Re: The Olympic open ceremony thread

I think it was a lookalike of the Queen.

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We saw a video of Daniel Craig - Mr Bond - walking into Buckingham Palace, having a quick exchange with the Queen and then the two of them appeared to get into a helicopter, and then we see the helicopter coming over the stadium. I'm not very far away from the stadium, I'm seeing the lights and all the rest of it. And then all of a sudden you see two figures parachute out of the helicopter. And then the Queen walks into the stadium wearing exactly the same outfit as the look-alike who got into the helicopter.

So if you want to know how Britain was going to approach this Opening Ceremony that is the moment that people are going to be talking about, that Her Majesty the Queen was prepared to take part and have a little fun with it all.
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Just cannot fathom why integrating many handicapped volunteers can be perceived as voyeurism

The rendition of God Save the Queen by death children was so moving.
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Most people I know, especially when I've lived in/visited Asia, think the NHS is a wonderful idea.

Even those in the UK with private health insurance ... if you get hit by a bus or have a heart attack, are you really going to call Bupa and book an appointment? I don't think so. You're going to call 999 and expect an ambulance to come quickly (helicopter if necessary) and take you to hospital where you're kept alive. All for free (at the point of use - obviously it's funded by the govt mainly through taxation).

So I believe the main group of people rolling their eyes at the NHS thing would be expat Brits and rich people living in the UK. Who usually don't have to use it or buy their way out of it.
The NHS is a wonderful idea and the people work hard. I just dont see what its part of the opening ceremony. Was it part of the austerity measures? Govt "We are cutting staff 20pc". Union response "OK, but we want a slot in the Opening Ceremony".

Some of the American criticism (labeling the NHS a facist organization) is OTT I just dont think it was the best part of British culture to be put forward or very entertaining.
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Old 28.07.2012, 20:40
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Damn, I missed the Zombie Apocalypse.
Well Danny Boyle DID direct 28 Days Later.
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Some of the American criticism (labeling the NHS a facist organization) is OTT I just dont think it was the best part of British culture to be put forward or very entertaining.
Did they check the dictionary for the meaning of "fascism" before describing nationwide service which is free, equal and available to all who need it regardless of social standing, race, creed, political leanings, etc.?

I'd say the NHS is a lot of things but "fascist" is a bit... umm...
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Old 28.07.2012, 20:46
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Re: The Olympic open ceremony thread

Bloody olympics.

I must be getting old. One late night and I can't stop yawning..
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Old 28.07.2012, 21:15
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I said to my husband last night that people would immediately jump to "why are they celebrating an ailing health service", then roll out anecdotes of waiting times and malpractice but I saw it as a celebration of the ideal, as it was intended.
China shoulda done something similar in 08, mebbe celebrating the good intentions behind the Great Leap Forward

kidding - I think it's weird to celebrate the NHS, but whatever, if you're proud of it, then celebrate it. Your Olympics, your celebration.

Personally, I usually don't give a rip about opening ceremonies and pageantry like this but I thought youse guys did a hell of a job. I actually enjoyed it - quintessentially British with muted pride in the past accomplishments while maintaining that quirky sense of humor. Good job, thumbs up. Even Becks did ya good. Tho I coulda done without that stupid skit where those kids were lost in the 70s or some shite.
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Old 28.07.2012, 21:26
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The NHS is a wonderful idea and the people work hard. I just dont see what its part of the opening ceremony.
Because the NHS was a ground breaking idea at the time and is a part of our history. It was either that, or a recreation of bombing Germany Plus it gave a "thanks" to the NHS staff, who do a great job with limited salaries (at the non-manager level).
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Re: The Olympic open ceremony thread

I am a cynic at best, and if you put all that on paper, industrial revolution, NHS, Jarrow march etc…I would have said it sounds like dogs dinner. But it all worked.

I think it showed the best of the UK, past and current, and a lot of British humor.

I think awe of seeing the Beijing opeing has long past, having seen it again now


I can't see what the fuss was all about, I know the London one will be remembered longer as it had real sections and moments (The Queen, Mr Bean..). And not just coordinatedd mass movements that all just blur in the memory.
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Old 28.07.2012, 21:39
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One of the comments I got from my (non-English) partner is ... why pick some random dude who invented the internet?
If you ask the average American who Sir Tim Berners-Lee was, they would have no idea. Ask that same person who invented the internet, and most will say Al Gore. I'm grateful that on Britain's stage, Danny Boyle and the Olympic organizers decided to give this man the props he richly deserves. Thank you, (Sir) Tim!

Berners-Lee may be British, but he was working for CERN when he invented hypertext and the world's first web page was Swiss. http://info.cern.ch
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Old 28.07.2012, 23:53
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Re: The Olympic open ceremony thread

I'm sure that Danny Boyle is delighted that there is so much debate and discussion about it. Pretty much, all Brits I talked to loved it, and most non-Brits. Thats not too bad. I bet nobody can remember anything about Beijings opening except for the cute girl singer who wasn't, but people will always remember something about last night!

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If you ask the average American who Sir Tim Berners-Lee was, they would have no idea. Ask that same person who invented the internet, and most will say Al Gore. I'm grateful that on Britain's stage, Danny Boyle and the Olympic organizers decided to give this man the props he richly deserves. Thank you, (Sir) Tim!

Berners-Lee may be British, but he was working for CERN when he invented hypertext and the world's first web page was Swiss. http://info.cern.ch
Hmmmm....clutching at straws re historical contribution to the world The memories of contributions between 39-45 somehow are not quite as clearly recollected down Helvetia way
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The NHS is a wonderful idea and the people work hard. I just dont see what its part of the opening ceremony. Was it part of the austerity measures? Govt "We are cutting staff 20pc". Union response "OK, but we want a slot in the Opening Ceremony".
In its day the NHS was, and to some extent remains, ground breaking. Hence its inclusion.

Edit: Doh. Adrian beat me to it.
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Re: The Olympic open ceremony thread

One of the amazing things was the detail. I'm hearing people talking about the bits they liked and the bits they didn't, and there seem to have been hundreds of separate episodes and incidents and cultural references, many of which I'd forgotten about until someone mentions them again.

I'll take issue with some of the recent comments on this thread about the Beijing opening ceremony. That was an incredible achievement. Like most people, I thought it was an utterly brilliant spectacle and perfectly performed. I don't think we should mark it down just because it was 4 years ago. It was so good that most of us were terrified that Beijing had ruined our chances, though in fact they did us a favour by forcing the organisers into new creative areas.

One big difference between the two was that I thought last night had incredible emotion throughout, unlike Beijing which was engineered to perfection, but was perhaps a little cold and clinical.

I was delighted that that there was so much humour in it, but also so much bloody LOVE. The Brits are famous for the former but not usually the latter.

Worth acknowledging that not everyone liked it. One UK Tory MP is under fire for describing it as "multicultural crap", and there are plenty of people who thought it was cheap and vulgar. But these are the serial moaners who are desperate for the Games to be a huge flop to justify 7 years of whining about the cost.

Talking of cost, many people have expressed outrage that the opening ceremony cost £27m to stage. By a nice coincidence, the peak viewing figures in the UK last night were... 27 million people. One pound each? Hmm. Doesn't sound like bad value to me.

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I am sure the guy from belize and the chick in fuji are impressed. they paking there bags now and fly to london,just to look at your NHS

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Talking of cost, many people have expressed outrage that the opening ceremony cost £27m to stage. By a nice coincidence, the peak viewing figures in the UK last night were... 27 million people. One pound each? Hmm. Doesn't sound like bad value to me.

My wife read this ceremony cost half of the Beijing one. Would be useful to see the cost of last 4 games but i couldn't find. Seems like they did understand the need for a common sense budget.
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Re: The Olympic open ceremony thread

One central theme I was thinking about, was that it was unashamedly British.

We (the British) keep on beating ourselves up over everything we ever did and always look at the US and see how they just promote and celebrate themselves no matter what. But for once we did this! I don’t really care if the World doesn’t get it, for once we put on an All British show.

Also to compare to Beijing, I think Danny Boyle made quite a subtle but profound statement, London was about its people, the freedoms they have enjoyed over the past 200 years which has allowed them to flourish. Compare to Beijing, over choreographed mass movement, one after the other, not one person out of line. For those who beat on about Beijing, remember this is a state with a very bad human rights record which has been brutal to demonstrators and opponents, the regime put on a show to show its power and prowess, I for one was impressed in awe but never forgot what their real point was.
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I am sure the guy from belize and the chick in fuji are impressed. they paking there bags now and fly to london,just to look at your NHS
Many people do fly into the UK just to use our NHS
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One central theme I was thinking about, was that it was unashamedly British.

We (the British) keep on beating ourselves up over everything we ever did and always look at the US and see how they just promote and celebrate themselves no matter what. But for once we did this! I don’t really care if the World doesn’t get it, for once we put on an All British show.

Also to compare to Beijing, I think Danny Boyle made quite a subtle but profound statement, London was about its people, the freedoms they have enjoyed over the past 200 years which has allowed them to flourish. Compare to Beijing, over choreographed mass movement, one after the other, not one person out of line. For those who beat on about Beijing, remember this is a state with a very bad human rights record which has been brutal to demonstrators and opponents, the regime put on a show to show its power and prowess, I for one was impressed in awe but never forgot what their real point was.
Nicely put, thank you. The phrase that jumped out at me was "I don’t really care if the World doesn’t get it".

I agree, but please everyone, I don't mean this arrogantly. The show, in all its dynamic chaos, made total sense to me, and for once I've felt the need to stop bloody apologising for everything that Britain does. Whether others liked it or not, or understood it or not, it was at heart a rallying call to the British, to be proud of what we are. As a famous Englishman once said to reassure a nervous portrait artist, "Paint me in my roughness, warts and all".

My last word on this subject goes to the Spanish newspaper El Mundo who demonstrated that they really DID 'get it'. They showed they understood what the opening ceremony was all about when they commented: "Despite all their mistakes, it has become clear that without the UK our lives would not be the same".
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The opening ceremony made me feel proud to be British for the first time in years. It was spectacular, showed our achievements over the years, and all that is good about GB as well as our slightly quirky sense of humour too. As a nation we really don't celebrate who we are enough.
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