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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

Buy a tunnelling service by VPN to an anonymous server and you have nothing to worry about.
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Old 28.10.2010, 14:20
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Is that so? Depending on which country the VPN provider resides in, this can actually make things a crapload worse for you.

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Old 28.10.2010, 15:31
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

My mate told me to move away from torrents and stick to usenet.. far better speeds and less legal ambiguity, especially if you use encrypted SSL access. Apparently its not as user friendly as torrent sites, but once you have it all set up, the difference is amazing.
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Old 28.10.2010, 15:34
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My mate told me to move away from torrents and stick to usenet.. far better speeds and less legal ambiguity, especially if you use encrypted SSL access. Apparently its not as user friendly as torrent sites, but once you have it all set up, the difference is amazing.

By "less ambiguity", you mean definitely illegal rather than just maybe illegal?
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

My mate had a look at usenet providers, but they all looked like the dodgiest of dodgy service providers that he wouldn't dream of giving his credit card details too.
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By "less ambiguity", you mean definitely illegal rather than just maybe illegal?
Well, it is unambiguous that downloading from Usenet is simply downloading, not uploading. So if the law differentiates, it might be more well defined than using bittorent would be.
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Old 28.10.2010, 16:16
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

Apparently, Limewire has been permanantly shut down for:
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Old 28.10.2010, 16:22
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Copyright has a fair use policy (international) by which you can copy 10% (some say 8%) of the material without using permission.

So Im guessing if you download something that is copyrighted, and upload at the same time (which most torrent trackers require), if you limit your upload bandwidth to a minimal amount that doesnt compromise your download speed, and when youve finished the download you stop the upload, and you've uploaded less than 10% of the fight, then technically you havent breached the copyright laws....
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Old 28.10.2010, 16:28
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My mate had a look at usenet providers, but they all looked like the dodgiest of dodgy service providers that he wouldn't dream of giving his credit card details too.
I know of a few people who use 'usenet' and never use P2P.

But yes alot more complicated, you need special software (which normally you have to pay for) and you need access to various 'pay' sites. However this is not always the case.
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So Im guessing if you download something that is copyrighted, and upload at the same time (which most torrent trackers require), if you limit your upload bandwidth to a minimal amount that doesnt compromise your download speed, and when youve finished the download you stop the upload, and you've uploaded less than 10% of the fight, then technically you havent breached the copyright laws....
That is the funniest thing I have ever read. So I can download movies and watch 10% of each movie legally according to you? I hope I understood you wrong as things just don't work like that.

Btw my best friend wants to know something, if he has lot of downloaded music and if he starts using itouch with itunes then do Apple have any system in place to quietly spill the beans on my friend by outing him to record label spies? My friend wants to know urgently.
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Apparently, Limewire has been permanantly shut down for:

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/inde...NewsID=3246230

Saw that too but from here:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/27/l...mpany-pledges/
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That is the funniest thing I have ever read. So I can download movies and watch 10% of each movie legally according to you? I hope I understood you wrong as things just don't work like that.

Btw my best friend wants to know something, if he has lot of downloaded music and if he starts using itouch with itunes then do Apple have any system in place to quietly spill the beans on my friend by outing him to record label spies? My friend wants to know urgently.
Why use iTunes? Use a 'Gold' version of Media Monkey for syncing the device.
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My friend is on hold. What shall I tell him about the question I asked?
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Will it sync videos too?
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Old 28.10.2010, 16:40
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Btw my best friend wants to know something, if he has lot of downloaded music and if he starts using itouch with itunes then do Apple have any system in place to quietly spill the beans on my friend by outing him to record label spies? My friend wants to know urgently.
No, they do not. The worst that will happen is your music collection will be compiled into marketing data that they will use to try and sell you more stuff, and make genuis playlists of course.

iTunes dropped DRM a while ago, and AFAIK, no one has any real way of telling if an mp3 was pirated or not, they have to catch you in the act.
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That is the funniest thing I have ever read. So I can download movies and watch 10% of each movie legally according to you? I hope I understood you wrong as things just don't work like that.

Btw my best friend wants to know something, if he has lot of downloaded music and if he starts using itouch with itunes then do Apple have any system in place to quietly spill the beans on my friend by outing him to record label spies? My friend wants to know urgently.
Lol Im not sure if its really the case (with torrents that is... with copyright material the fair use policy exists however...)

Was just letting my mind wander a little and thinking outside the square (and justifying my lawbreaking actions...)
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Is that so? Depending on which country the VPN provider resides in, this can actually make things a crapload worse for you.

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Please clarify. Let's take for example Sweden and a provider who is notorious for not keeping any kind of logs. what would I risk in comparison to downloading a tv show from a private tracker?
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Old 29.10.2010, 02:11
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By "less ambiguity", you mean definitely illegal rather than just maybe illegal?
Not exactly, possession is usually a lesser offense than dealing.
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

Downloading is still ok, but not uploading? And this applies to music AND movies/tv shows? But not software?

What? I would imagine the copyrights of the former are more valuable (arguably) and have a significant amount of lawyer muscle behind them (comparatively).

What is the rationale? Anyone? Sorry if this is a tired question. I have no interest in music/movies. So.........I'm a bit jealous. :P
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Downloading is still ok, but not uploading? And this applies to music AND movies/tv shows? But not software?
yupp, exactly.
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