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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

Hi,

Two questions:

1st: utorrent is legal or not in Switzerland?
2nd: when i download a torrent file, simultaneous i upload? or just when the download file is finish to download?


thnx a lot for reply
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Old 10.11.2010, 13:01
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

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Hi,

Two questions:

1st: utorrent is legal or not in Switzerland?
2nd: when i download a torrent file, simultaneous i upload? or just when the download file is finish to download?


thnx a lot for reply
this has been discussed at length in this and other threads. To make it short:

any kind of upload of copyrighted material (in part or in full) is illegal. Unless you can completely disable the upload function in utorrent, it's not legal to use.
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

thnx for the reply
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

Ha. Gav posted this "coming soon" thread in 2007.

My mate says he can now download feature films in .AVI in torrents within 20-30 mins. Is USENET capable of these speeds?
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Old 15.11.2010, 23:30
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

a friend of mine was telling me today that he was getting 4MB/s speeds downloading films via usenet. 720p films in 3-4 minutes
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Old 16.11.2010, 08:11
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

I believe that torrent shring site Limewire has stopped file sharing. Mininova stopped earlier this year.
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

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a friend of mine was telling me today that he was getting 4MB/s speeds downloading films via usenet. 720p films in 3-4 minutes
this all depends on how large the files are
720p does not mean much, it all depends on the way it was ripped
classic BDRip could easily be 1.80GB but it could also be 6.50GB - quite a difference in download time.
also you can easily reach those download speeds (4mb/s >) on torrent, it's a lot to do with peering and your network performance and computer settings

going back to a previous post above, if you managed to disable the upload part of a torrent and you just downloaded you would defeat the purpose of the p2p and it would just not work anymore if the majority of users did that, and on top of that you would also be flagged as hit and run

- not here to justify by any means the download/upload = distribution of illegally downloaded copyrighted material, but only to give a better view on how p2p works and in my opinion p2p can definitely cater for genuine distribution and sharing of legitimate content, but there's always the dark side...
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Old 18.11.2010, 07:19
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

The question is...will foreigners be deported which are uploading copyrighted material in switzerland....?
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Old 18.11.2010, 07:55
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

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That is the funniest thing I have ever read. So I can download movies and watch 10% of each movie legally according to you? I hope I understood you wrong as things just don't work like that.

Yep, completely misunderstood...

What this means, is that you can copy up to about 10% and re distribute it as part of your own work. Eg. Uploading a remix to youtube.

Therefore, based on the view in question (which may not actually hold up in court, though the bigger question, as with everything, is whether it will warrant attention from the authorities), is that as long as the upload was less that say 10% of the content, you're still technically in the public domain and not exposed to proceedings.



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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

Probably more relevant is the legal situation over ISPs having to reveal personal details based on IP address logs. Unless your ISP tells the prosecuting party who you are then you are unlikely to be linked to your downloads / uploads.

Does anybody know the latest on that in Switzerland? Last I heard (I think) was that Swiss ISPs were allowed to deny requests by content owners to give information relevant to IP addresses.
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Old 19.11.2010, 10:03
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

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Probably more relevant is the legal situation over ISPs having to reveal personal details based on IP address logs. Unless your ISP tells the prosecuting party who you are then you are unlikely to be linked to your downloads / uploads.

Does anybody know the latest on that in Switzerland? Last I heard (I think) was that Swiss ISPs were allowed to deny requests by content owners to give information relevant to IP addresses.
Last I heard was that the Swiss Gov declared that the "Swiss ISPs keeping details about their customers using such services" was banned & it is illegal to distribute this info.
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

US Department of Homeland Security has seized some domain name and appear to be shutting down Torrent websites:

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...-domain-names-
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US Department of Homeland Security has seized some domain name and appear to be shutting down Torrent websites:

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...-domain-names-
What is the expression? Something about "people who have little work usually find something to do"

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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

For those of you who are considering Usenet, then take a look here.

http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/usenet-providers.html

The best offer at the moment seems to be with UNS (Use Net Server). They offer a year deal which works out at $7.95 a month. So I think I'll be signing up soon. Any one else interested, I can give you my number so you can include me as a referrer.

btw, don't be fooled that they are only investigating P2P, usenet is also being put under the microscope. The big difference is you donwload only therefore from my understanding this is currently legal in Switzerland. Also you can use a secure transfer so they (your ISP) can't see what you are downloading.

The biggest problem with usenet is finding a good search tool. I have a couple but looking for better options.
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Re: Prosecution for P2P users - coming soon!

what?????????????????????????????????? I didn't know it.
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